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Old 04-29-2011, 04:13 PM
 
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I'm a conservative. I don't approve of many of Obama's policies. However, I'm in the minority on this forum in that I restrict my criticisms to his policy. I'm not a birther. I don't think Obama is racist toward Whites. I don't think he is a closet Muslim. And I don't think he is a socialist. Why don't fellow conservatives criticisize Obama for his policies instead of resorting to these baseless and extreme accusations?

I don't approve of Obama's stance on the Iraq/Afghanistan war. I don't approve of his wreckless spending. I don't approve of our engagement of Libya. I don't think he is doing enough to create jobs in the United States and limit outsourcing.

Why is it that I feel like I'm the only one on this forum that takes this stance? I feel like I'm the only Obama critic who is not a birther or I don't think he is a racist.
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Old 04-29-2011, 04:17 PM
 
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I look at the mans past relationships, therefore I judge him based on those people.

I think he is a deep muslim sympathizer.

I think he is indeed a socialist.

I think he is a liar.

I think that he is a racist.

I don't think that he has America's best interest at heart.

I don't think he is dumb, I just think that not enough people asked themselves what he wanted to "fundamentally change America" into.

God help us.
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Old 04-29-2011, 04:20 PM
 
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I disagree. Other than calling him a "Socialist," most conservatives can find enough fault with his policy they don't need to assassinate his character. Only a few spew such nonsense as his nativity or Muslim faith. Unlike Clinton, they can't find any evidence he cheated on his wife, smoked pot or engaged in shady deals for personal gain.
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Old 04-29-2011, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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OP, for starters, have you missed the countless threads about health care, Iraq/Afghanistan, oil, border control, illegal immigration, inflation, gas prices, czars and the budget?
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:07 PM
 
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I'm a conservative. I don't approve of many of Obama's policies. However, I'm in the minority on this forum in that I restrict my criticisms to his policy. I'm not a birther. I don't think Obama is racist toward Whites. I don't think he is a closet Muslim. And I don't think he is a socialist. Why don't fellow conservatives criticisize Obama for his policies instead of resorting to these baseless and extreme accusations?

I don't approve of Obama's stance on the Iraq/Afghanistan war. I don't approve of his wreckless spending. I don't approve of our engagement of Libya. I don't think he is doing enough to create jobs in the United States and limit outsourcing.

Why is it that I feel like I'm the only one on this forum that takes this stance? I feel like I'm the only Obama critic who is not a birther or I don't think he is a racist.
I apologize for this, but you kind of sound like a Democrat playing a Conservative here, because all Conservatives love to do is talk issues.

Why did birther stuff get going? Obama had relatives tell people that he was born in Africa and that they were there. Also Hillary, Bill and others in the Democrat party started this in 2007.

People have been screaming about Obamacare, socialism, the take over of GM and giving it to unions.
We've been talking about the government unions getting most of the stimulus when the private sector was who needed it.
We got into the need for a balanced budget amendment.

There were side issues that Obama's lifestyle caused to come to a debate. He having in Chicago been in a radical racist church did make waves. Reverend Write, his association with murderer Ailes and so forth all are issues that have been discussed and will probably continue to be so.

Most would say the election of a black President was wonderful and shows there is no limitations for the most part in America, that aside the man as a President is a disaster and all that has been the subject of debate.

Where have you been that you believe we only talk mostly gossip here?
I respectfully disagree with you.
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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... all Conservatives love to do is talk issues.
Anyone need a shovel and a shower after this one?
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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I'm a conservative. I don't approve of many of Obama's policies. However, I'm in the minority on this forum in that I restrict my criticisms to his policy. I'm not a birther. I don't think Obama is racist toward Whites. I don't think he is a closet Muslim. And I don't think he is a socialist. Why don't fellow conservatives criticisize Obama for his policies instead of resorting to these baseless and extreme accusations?

I don't approve of Obama's stance on the Iraq/Afghanistan war. I don't approve of his wreckless spending. I don't approve of our engagement of Libya. I don't think he is doing enough to create jobs in the United States and limit outsourcing.

Why is it that I feel like I'm the only one on this forum that takes this stance? I feel like I'm the only Obama critic who is not a birther or I don't think he is a racist.
Why do most conservatives criticize Obama for personal issues and not his policy?

They don't. I disagree with many of the same issues you quoted, and I think many also do. I'm not a birther and don't care if he is a racist.

My issues: He is a socialist. He loves big government and sees every problem as needing bigger government to solve. He loves taxes. He refuses to stop spending. He refuses to end the wars. That's not a personal attack. It's just who he is and what he believes.

On a personal basis, he does lie and will say anything to get elected. He rags on others about petty bickering while he is the leader of bickering. He lied about health care and he lied about the Supreme Court decision among many others.

So he is a liar, but I could get over that if he were not also a big government and nanny state advocate.
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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It's because most get their info from foxnews or some rightwing outlet. And, most actually want to keep the healthcare plan that goes into effect in 14', their medicaire, social security, script programs etc. They actually like his policies, they don't that he's not "like them" in other ways..That's just the truth. That's why the conservative congress after spending an entire year campaigning on repeal of healthcare haven't said a peep about it since the last elections, NOTHING. They know once Americans get something, they never want to give it back..
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:36 PM
 
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It's because most get their info from foxnews or some rightwing outlet. And, most actually want to keep the healthcare plan that goes into effect in 14', their medicaire, social security, script programs etc. They actually like his policies, they don't that he's not "like them" in other ways..That's just the truth. That's why the conservative congress after spending an entire year campaigning on repeal of healthcare haven't said a peep about it since the last elections, NOTHING. They know once Americans get something, they never want to give it back..
Who told you that?
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Old 04-29-2011, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I'm a conservative. I don't approve of many of Obama's policies. However, I'm in the minority on this forum in that I restrict my criticisms to his policy. I'm not a birther. I don't think Obama is racist toward Whites. I don't think he is a closet Muslim. And I don't think he is a socialist. Why don't fellow conservatives criticisize Obama for his policies instead of resorting to these baseless and extreme accusations?

I don't approve of Obama's stance on the Iraq/Afghanistan war. I don't approve of his wreckless spending. I don't approve of our engagement of Libya. I don't think he is doing enough to create jobs in the United States and limit outsourcing.

Why is it that I feel like I'm the only one on this forum that takes this stance? I feel like I'm the only Obama critic who is not a birther or I don't think he is a racist.
WE criticize him for both, actually as much for his policies.

Nita
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