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Old 04-05-2011, 09:50 PM
 
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I wonder how many on this topic pre 1970 have their original on white paper with signatures?

Alot of babies were born at home also.
It's not white any longer, may never have been, but what I have is what was called a "photo stat" copy....got more than one, actually. And I only missed being born in 1970 by a few months.

Obama wasn't born at home.
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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So what's available?



All are digital? Where did that "digital" info come from?

You REALLY think the POTUS couldn't get his hands on his long form if he wanted to?



Did you? Or do want me to say that they are white, so it's a non-issue? McCain got called out. Or did you miss that one?



He's done squat.
Hawaii does NOT release the long form. You order a birth certificate in Hawaii, you only get ONE option.
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:51 PM
 
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- He's not hiding anything, he's just not voluntarily providing that insane list of documents that gets periodically posted here.

But why would he not do that?

- Birthers have already more than proven they will never be satisfied with anything.
- It's beneath the dignity of the office of President to placate conspiracy theorists. Did Truman ever engage in a point-by-point discussion about Roswell? Did Bush ever do anything more than ridicule truthers? Conspiracy theorists based on baseless speculation and outright lies should not be given presidential time and attention.
- Birthers make the rest of the GOP look bad. Birthers tend to believe not just that Obama was not born in Honolulu as it states on his birth certificate, but lots and lots of other theories. There are birthers who started asking in earnest whether he was hiding that his real name was Steve because he made a joke that that was actually his middle name at a comedy dinner event.
- Birthers may have already helped politically; Mike Castle may have lost the Delaware Senate primary because he pissed off birthers at a town hall, setting the stage for Christine O'Donnell to lose a very winnable Senate seat.

Four compelling reasons right there for Obama to tell you and your anti-constitution, anti-American conspiracy theorists to stuff it. Your lack of respect for the constitutional right of Hawaii to devise its own birth certificate in accordance with federal standards, and birthers' constant support for state legislation that is unconstitutional on its face exposes birthers who try to wave the Constitution every chance they get but actually know nothing about what it actually says or means.
He's hiding something.

You can whine all day long about who isn't going be "satisfied" or not.

He's hiding something.

Get over it.
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:52 PM
 
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But Kerry and Bush released theirs b/c the left needed to know who had a better GPA. And Kerry didn't. Before he did.

of course you have evidence of the above? yup right. you dont
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:55 PM
 
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Hawaii does NOT release the long form. You order a birth certificate in Hawaii, you only get ONE option.
Sure, the POTUS requests his long-form on record (because he lost the one he found in his mother's "things") and he's going to be denied?

Don't think so.
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:56 PM
 
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of course you have evidence of the above? yup right. you dont
How old WERE you during that election that you're actually ASKING this?
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:03 PM
 
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Sure, the POTUS requests his long-form on record (because he lost the one he found in his mother's "things") and he's going to be denied?
Yes he will only receive what Hawaii sends him. Which is the COLB. Hawaii will not release any other form because THEY ARE UNABLE to

How many times in every birther thread must this be explained to you? And don't act like you've never heard this before, because I know that YOU've been told this SEVERAL times every time you bring up this BS.

In 2001, HAWAII went completely digital with ALL of their records.

Do you understand what that means? That means NO paper RECORDS ARE GENERATED anymore in RECORD KEEPING. That means ALL paper records are NO LONGER AVAILABLE to ANYONE. ANYWHERE. PERIOD.

The closest to a paper keeping RECORD that is available is a MICROFICHE version of Birth Certificates (and that's for records prior to 1959), BUT THERE IS NO ABILITY TO print from a Microfiche file (that technology went away with the ADVENT of TECHNOLOGY and PDF's)

Since 2001, all the records previously and from then on, ARE generated by a computer and a physical print out via a LASER PRINTER (in the 90's it was a DOT MATRIX printer) is produced.

How many times are you going to keep on asking for something THAT HE IS UNABLE TO GET???



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Don't think so.
Yes its apparent that you don't think at all.
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:05 PM
 
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He's hiding something.

You can whine all day long about who isn't going be "satisfied" or not.

He's hiding something.

Get over it.
You said there's "no reason" for Obama to not do what you want. I posted four good reasons. You can reject them, but you can't say that there's no reason.

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Old 04-05-2011, 10:05 PM
 
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How old WERE you during that election that you're actually ASKING this?

Old enough to know that you're BSing about it.
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:49 PM
 
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Yes he will only receive what Hawaii sends him. Which is the COLB. Hawaii will not release any other form because THEY ARE UNABLE to
That's a load.

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How many times in every birther thread must this be explained to you? And don't act like you've never heard this before, because I know that YOU've been told this SEVERAL times every time you bring up this BS.
Hey - get out of the kitchen if you can't handle the heat.

In 2001, HAWAII went completely digital with ALL of their records and all previous records were burned at the stake? No longforms for YOU!

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Do you understand what that means? That means NO paper RECORDS ARE GENERATED anymore in RECORD KEEPING. That means ALL paper records are NO LONGER AVAILABLE to ANYONE. ANYWHERE. PERIOD.
Who is asking for the original paper form? Obama can't find the one he found in his mom's stuff. Most likely the original, in it's original form, well, it was printed from the microfiche and then scanned in to a computer database and filed away.

Now Abercrombie can't find Obama's. Can Abercrombie find any one else's? Or all those are all gone too? Why would Abercrombie even have attempted to look for anything if it never existed?

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The closest to a paper keeping RECORD that is available is a MICROFICHE version of Birth Certificates (and that's for records prior to 1959), BUT THERE IS NO ABILITY TO print from a Microfiche file (that technology went away with the ADVENT of TECHNOLOGY and PDF's)
Hawaii burned microfiche with vital statistics on said microfiche?

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Since 2001, all the records previously and from then on, ARE generated by a computer and a physical print out via a LASER PRINTER (in the 90's it was a DOT MATRIX printer) is produced.
Obama was born in 1961. What you are not addressing, is where was the info on his 2000 and something COLB came from.

Why fill out a form longer than the info the COLB shows after having a baby? Where does it go? Does the original get shredded or burned after the COLB is printed out?


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How many times are you going to keep on asking for something THAT HE IS UNABLE TO GET???
As many times as you and your ilk say he can't. Because he can. And let's just say, for ****s and giggle, he CAN'T? Why not release his college app forms? Or any other form he sealed up that may state any personal/vital stats? So easy, yet sooooo darn hard for the hot mess and his sheep.

What's he hiding?


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Yes its apparent that you don't think at all.
You're confusing me with someone who voted for Obama.
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