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I actually started another thread on that on Friday. They will probably put forth more petitions by the end of the week, with likely more coming before the May 2nd deadline. Looks like the elections will be held in June or July.
Walker's recall efforts wouldn't be able to start until Jan, which would put his election (if he were to be recalled) likely next April or May.
It would be nice to have Walker recalled now, but it's actually a good thing the people of wisconsin have to wait until next year. Having walker thrown out of office in the heat of campaign season is going to deliver a devastating blow to the GOP and tea party
Nazi had the same beliefs that you do about unions. That is why they killed unions. Trade unions and workers' rights did not bode well with their political agenda.
I'm not sure why you think that. Look again at the Nazi Party platform:
- We ask that the government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunities for employment and earning a living.
- The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within its confines and for the good of all. Therefore, we demand:...an end to the power of the financial interests.
- We demand profit sharing in big business.
- We demand a broad extension of care for the aged.
- We demand...the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchases of the national, state and municipal governments.
- In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our entire system of public education
- The government must undertake the improvement of public health
- [We] combat the...materialistic spirit within and without us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good
(Source: Der Nationalsozialismus Dokumente 1933-1945, edited by Walther Hofer, Frankfurt am Main: Fischer Bucherei, 1957, pp. 29-31)
The Nazi Party platform is very much in line with union ideology, which is exactly why the Nazi government fostered a national union.
Seems to me that Walker was elected Governor to take care of the financial problems in Wisconsin.
Exactly.
For whatever reason, Dems and unions want WI residents to have to pay higher taxes. Would love to see them explain that.
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Now, Democrats all over the country are trying to tell the voters of one state that they must stand down and give in to the Left's demands.
Ain't gonna happen.
Well, we'll just have to see if the WI residents are stupid enough to be duped by the Dems and the unions. If they are, it'll only last until the impending "Oh, crap! What have we done? We just screwed ourselves!" moment when they get their ever-skyrocketing tax bills.
Um... that's EXACTLY what it is when the government collects the public employee union dues, and pays the unions back for their political support with sweetheart salary and benefits deals that are gouging the taxpayers and are financially unsustainable.
Yet MORE ignorance on your part.
If you twisted reality any more you'd be able to look out your own mouth.
For whatever reason, Dems and unions want WI residents to have to pay higher taxes. Would love to see them explain that.
Well, we'll just have to see if the WI residents are stupid enough to be duped by the Dems and the unions. If they are, it'll only last until the impending "Oh, crap! What have we done? We just screwed ourselves!" moment when they get their ever-skyrocketing tax bills.
No, we want the tax paying workers to take a hit in pay while Walker pays high salaries to his unqualified cronies riding the taxpayer gravy train!
Corporatism, also known as corporativism, is a system of economic, political, or social organization that views a community as a body based upon organic social solidarity and functional distinction and roles among individuals. The term corporatism is based on the Latin word "corpus" meaning "body". Formal corporatist models are based upon the contract of corporate groups, such as agricultural, business, ethnic, labor, military, patronage, scientific, or religious affiliations, into a collective body
a corporation is a union...unions are a corporation...all is fascism
unions...usually backed by the globalist progressive fascist liberals have helped in some areas (child labor laws, etc) but their sole intent is to 'socialize' the united states, to either "nationalize" the entire country and its corporations (main stream socialist way), or to so over regulate the corporations (the fascist way)
Where socialism sought totalitarian control of a society’s economic processes through direct state operation of the means of production, fascism sought that control indirectly, through domination of nominally private owners by way of UNIONS. Where socialism nationalized property explicitly, fascism did so implicitly, by requiring owners to use their property in the “national interest”—that is, as the autocratic authority conceived it. (Nevertheless, a few industries were operated by the state.) Where socialism abolished all market relations outright, fascism left the appearance of market relations while planning all economic activities. Where socialism abolished money and prices, fascism controlled the monetary system and set all prices and wages politically through unions. State ministries or unions, rather than consumers, determined what was produced and under what conditions.
""Fascism is a system in which the government leaves nominal ownership of the means of production in the hands of private individuals but exercises control by means of regulatory legislation and reaps most of the profit by means of heavy taxation. In effect, fascism is simply a more subtle form of government ownership than is socialism."" Mussolini
"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."
- Norman Thomas, former U.S. Socialist Presidential Candidate
actually there is nothing wrong with PRIVATE sector unions...but the iISSUE AT HAND is the raping of the taxpayer by the PUBLIC sector unions that should be abolished
PUBLIC unions should not have barganing power...private unions sure..but not PUBLIC unions
the unions make it MADITORY to be a member of the union whether the worker want to be a member or not
the union makes it maditory to pay dues, even if you dont want to be a union member..you want the job, you will be union or you can go find something else
that is union crime
there should not be anytype of barganing for PUBLIC unions...private unions sure..but not publc unions
becaue PUBLIC unions are not supposed to have barganing...period
National Labor Relations Act ("Wagner Act"),Congress enacted the landmark Act in 1935 - the Magna Carta of the American labor movement. It excluded federal, state and local employees. It created the National Labor Relations Board to enforce the rights of labor.
even FDR said so
"""Meticulous attention should be paid to the special relationships and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the government. All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations ... The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for ... officials ... to bind the employer ... The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives ...
"Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of government employees. Upon employees in the federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people ... This obligation is paramount ... A strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent ... to prevent or obstruct ... Government ... Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government ... is unthinkable and intolerable."""...FDR 1937
and you want to know WHY it is a problem to have 'collective barganing' in the PUBLIC SECTOR............The problem is there is no REAL "collective bargaining." ......Public sector unions are a client of a Democratic bureaucracy that wants their vote. The taxpayer - the "employer" - isn't a player in the bargaining process......
this is why the liberals and the unions are protesting
“Without the mandatory dues from public employee unions, the democrat party is toast. Once this ball is rolling and taxpayers realize how the scam of public unions work, this wave will be unstoppable. Wi. dems better keep running.”
Apparently the latest flap is that Walker hired one of his lobbyists son for an $81,000 job, his main qualification seems to be a High School diploma and two DUI arrests
Is this like Obama hiring a job czar that laid off tens of thousands of workers right before he was hired?
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