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Old 04-15-2011, 10:07 PM
 
Location: You Ta Zhou
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Not until 1891 did we have federal immigration laws. Quotas did nat start until 1921.
There was the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 that he might be talking about. We all know what a success that was at keeping "undesirable" Chinese out of America.
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:12 PM
 
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Why?

Why are you so worried about the race of legal immigrants?

If it isn't racism, please do enlighten us on just what the big deal is, that you have to post multiple threads per day on this topic.

Obsessed?
Trust that I recieve and understand your point. Honest.
But just because someone, even redundantly, mentions a concern that ceters around a certain ethnicity, doesnt spell racism. Keep in mind that racism and racial are not synonyms. If someone mentions that they had dinner with a black person, that's a racial remark. It isnt racism until they add, "and of course, they all love some chicken", even if a black person says it!

I cant speak for the nation, but I suspect that the disregard for the laws of the border, and yes, the economy and maybe culture clashes* might even be of some concern for those like myself, who are following this issue, much more than skin color. And as for any who might hate for those reasons, I move to move them out of the country!

*language barriers, ill comprehension of local laws and customs, etc. These things matter much the same way understanding the rules and policies of any job someone new to the ways of America, or any country, might encounter, with difficulty, if ill prepared.
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:42 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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There was the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 that he might be talking about. We all know what a success that was at keeping "undesirable" Chinese out of America.
Yes, those darn chinese!

You are correct, it was against a specific group. Actually the 1790 did limit naturalization to whites only but it wasn't a quota.

Quotas really kicked in during the teens and 20's. This was actually a big reason for the depression. When WWI started immigration went from about 1 million a year to maybe 100k a year on average. Immigrants came on average at age 25 or so. As they assimilated and grew up they bought all the new cars and gadgets for their families. driving up the economy. Fast forward to 1930, we see a massive drop off in peak spending families due to the immigration drop after 1914.

If an economy does not have new consumers, it grinds to a halt, if it halts it is a domino affect with companies who were growing yearly, now losing rapidly.
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Old 04-15-2011, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Yes, those darn chinese!

You are correct, it was against a specific group. Actually the 1790 did limit naturalization to whites only but it wasn't a quota.
That law was modified in 1870 to make those of African descent eligible for naturalization. The Chinese Exclusion Act was in 1881. There were some measures against the immigration of known anarchists following the assassination of McKinley (even though we now know that Leon Czolgosz was a lone psycho whose ties to the anarchist movement were extremely tenuous rather than an actual anarchist terrorist)

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Quotas really kicked in during the teens and 20's.
The Temporary Quota of 1921 followed by the more severe 1924 Immigration Act, which severely restricted Southern and Eastern European immigration and banned Asian immigration. Immigration from Britain, Ireland, and Germany wasn't restricted much. There were no restrictions on immigration from Mexico, the Caribbean, or any other country in the Western Hemisphere. This regimen remained in place more or less until the 1965 Kennedy-Cellar Act. (Which is why those who blame that law for increasing Mexican immigration are wrong ; prior to that law any Mexican who could pay the fees charged could legally immigrate to the US. It DID reopen Asian immigration and opened up African and Middle Eastern immigration, however.)

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This was actually a big reason for the depression.
It may have been a secondary factor but was not a primary factor and I've never read anything suggesting it was a primary factor.

It did lower the birth rate ; hence 1927 being considered the beginning of the "Silent Generation" as birth rates started dropping.

Note that the 1924 Immigration Act was far from being universally popular ; many US politicians advocated its repeal from the moment it was on the books.
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Old 04-15-2011, 11:53 PM
 
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I don't think that is even close to accurate. I think you have a biased view of what you consider scientific breakthroughs.
Can you name a few inventions from Black Africans from Africa? You know things like aspirin, the transistor, television, etc.
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Old 04-16-2011, 12:11 AM
 
Location: USA
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Every law and rule in US reflects the state of conscious of its citizens. In the old days, some groups were discourage to enter the country for certain reasons that do not exist now. The idea is always to protect the well being of the citizens.

There are international trades where the government helps other nations by facilitating immigration to US. This is a way to help countries economically in disadvantage and at the same time to obtain the employees that the country needs because the available jobs are not taken by the American citizens.

Not too many Americans are willing to work for minimum wage and neither to take temp jobs that require extensive skill development for a regular salary like temp IT jobs.

The jobs taken by immigrants are not the jobs that American people are dying for.
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Old 04-16-2011, 01:03 AM
 
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Can you name a few inventions from Black Africans from Africa? You know things like aspirin, the transistor, television, etc.
Well, what have you PERSONALLY invented? You know, since you seem to be so proud to be from the race of inventors.

LOL@ aspirin, transistor, and television. SMH....some folks, i swear.
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Old 04-16-2011, 03:49 AM
 
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Well, what have you PERSONALLY invented? You know, since you seem to be so proud to be from the race of inventors.

LOL@ aspirin, transistor, and television. SMH....some folks, i swear.
Can you answer the question - Some inventions from Black Africans from Africa? I mean, you literally have millions from White people just about everything around you, shouldn't be too hard to name a few from Black Africans, no?


Why did you 'desert' Detroit, desertdetroiter?
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Old 04-16-2011, 05:22 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Why not implement another one now?
Hmm...let's see...because it wasn't an especially good idea?
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Old 04-16-2011, 05:28 AM
 
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Maybe because we already maintain an immigration quota system?
Off the books, or on the books?
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