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IMO social programs don't count for anything because contrary to what many believe, white people benefit more from social programs than black people (which is elementary since there are more poor white people than poor black people in this country).
LOL By default. There are many more whites in general than there are blacks. You have to look at percentages.
I don't think he's done anything to help black people.
I had hoped that his election would, at least, improve
race relations. Unfortunately, he's done the opposite.
LOL By default. There are many more whites in general than there are blacks. You have to look at percentages.
This is a false statement. You do not have to look at percentages, unless the monies are being divvied up by percentage.
If you have 100,000 people receiving social services from the state and the state is givng away $1,000,000 dollars to all of these individuals and 60,000 of these people are white, 20,000 black and 20,000 latino, the states do not divvy up the money according to racial percentage.
So, you can make the claim that, using this scenario, that whites suck up the bulk of the public assistance (which would be roughly $600,000 compared to $200,000 by blacks and $200,000 by latinos).
Percentages are only good when you are looking at things in proportion to something else. If you were to look at it and say "what is the likelihood that a white, black or latino person would need public assistance, then you would be correct as that would be a percentage where 1 in 10 or x in 100 of y would need government assistance; and whites would, more than likely, be in the lower percentage. But, I think we let race - and the race we identify with - get us all touchy-feely. The other poster made a valid point and I am certain he did not mean to be malicious with his statement so you should not get defensive about it (if, indeed, you did).
I had to touch on this because you are wrong, andrea. However, this thread is seriously deviating from its original topic.
I was in the car the other day and ran across one of those radio talk shows that says President Obama only caters to African Americans and his approval rating were 94% black and only 6% was white. (47% approval waiting). and that black people are trying to run America since his presidency
And so the lesson is (the envelope please)...
Turn the dial on that radio! That's what it's there for.
This is a false statement. You do not have to look at percentages, unless the monies are being divvied up by percentage.
If you have 100,000 people receiving social services from the state and the state is givng away $1,000,000 dollars to all of these individuals and 60,000 of these people are white, 20,000 black and 20,000 latino, the states do not divvy up the money according to racial percentage.
So, you can make the claim that, using this scenario, that whites suck up the bulk of the public assistance (which would be roughly $600,000 compared to $200,000 by blacks and $200,000 by latinos).
Percentages are only good when you are looking at things in proportion to something else. If you were to look at it and say "what is the likelihood that a white, black or latino person would need public assistance, then you would be correct as that would be a percentage where 1 in 10 or x in 100 of y would need government assistance; and whites would, more than likely, be in the lower percentage. But, I think we let race - and the race we identify with - get us all touchy-feely. The other poster made a valid point and I am certain he did not mean to be malicious with his statement so you should not get defensive about it (if, indeed, you did).
I had to touch on this because you are wrong, andrea. However, this thread is seriously deviating from its original topic.
Huh? Percentage-wise, there are more blacks on welfare than there are whites. That is a fact. I challenge you to prove me otherwise.
And no, that is not a deviation from the OP, that is one explanation why people think Obama caters to blacks...he wants to keep on giving handouts, and it is a fact that more blacks, percentage-wise, receive welfare moreso than whites.
I was in the car the other day and ran across one of those radio talk shows that says President Obama only caters to African Americans and his approval rating were 94% black and only 6% was white. (47% approval waiting). and that black people are trying to run America since his presidency
I was quite disturbed by the comments because I believe that Obama hasn't really did anything for us, yes social programs are directed towards low income individuals but they benefit all low income Americans. So i don't think this is justifiable.
I have a good income, live in a good neighborhood, and pay my taxes and I don't have any high mind because my president is black .. i go by my daily life so i can pay the bills and enjoy my lifestyle like any other white Asian Latino and black on my street.
I know this question is long but what do you guys think about this remark? I want true opinions because I feel this how most far right conservative think?
Huh? Percentage-wise, there are more blacks on welfare than there are whites. That is a fact. I challenge you to prove me otherwise.
And no, that is not a deviation from the OP, that is one explanation why people think Obama caters to blacks...he wants to keep on giving handouts, and it is a fact that more blacks, percentage-wise, receive welfare moreso than whites.
Since this started with my post I will reiterate that I said that there are more poor white people than black people in this country so more poor white people use assistance programs than black people. I did not say welfare specifically as you are right that more black people do use TANF/welfare (or whatever your state has renamed it). But TANF/welfare is not the only assistance program in the country. The largest is Medicaid and more white people use medicaid that black people by a large majority.
Also wanted to add that payments for welfare have not gone up under Obama so your assumption that he is catering to black people on welfare is absurd. Also most states do not even pay you any additional welfare monies if you have extra children, but one can receive extra money in the form of food stamps, medicaid, and WIC, all of which the majority users are white people. So one could say that Obama is catering to poor white people more than poor black people.
But like I said before. He is not catering to black people. He hasn't done anything out of the ordinary for us. I got a lot of help from Bush as through one of his down payment assistance programs I got about 30K in grants to buy my house. Lots of black people used these programs so one could say that Bush catered to black people. The whole argument is assinine and your comments really seem as if they are similar to those of pundents who say that the president is catering the black people in attempting to sway many into believing that something is taking place for black people that isn't so.
If the president truly were catering to poor black people on welfare, there wouldn't be so many of them still on welfare now would it?
And no, that is not a deviation from the OP, that is one explanation why people think Obama caters to blacks...he wants to keep on giving handouts, and it is a fact that more blacks, percentage-wise, receive welfare moreso than whites.
President Obama did not establish those programs, so to equivocate the continuation of them as "catering to blacks" is absurd. Talk about a butchered version of deductive reasoning...
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Well said. Very true statement.
