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Old 04-22-2011, 06:45 PM
 
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The leader of the movement!

A movement full of charlatans, grifters, schemers and crooks.
Leader of what movement? A global effort to stop destroying so much nature? I've never even heard of this guy. You're trying to create a strawman argument.
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Old 04-22-2011, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Mother Gaia was hungry I'm sure. (For the record I'm joking.)
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Old 04-22-2011, 08:26 PM
 
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I just like how consistent the conservative posters on here are with their liberal-hating responses!

Good work, we'll see the light sooner or later, but in the meantime just keep posting until we get it!

Great. We will hope for a change. In the meantime, donate more to local charities, volunteer more, and participate in your local United Way. Until then, all the global "concern" and "sympathy" is just hollow talk. Again, this is liberal behavior at its finest. To gain a first hand example of this, ask a liberal to volunteer to help the elderly via church service hours, play some cards with the vets, clean a few homes, or just donate to the food pantry. They will turn and run, as they are too concerned with global warming and the nuances of socialism to dirty thier hands with the "little people". Sorry- these are the realities of liberal behavior. Too much wine and cheese to be consumed to be concerned about their fellow man, as that is a distant concept that must only be addressed via polite conversation and false sentiment, not action.
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Old 04-22-2011, 08:34 PM
 
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Great. We will hope for a change. In the meantime, donate more to local charities, volunteer more, and participate in your local United Way. Until then, all the global "concern" and "sympathy" is just hollow talk. Again, this is liberal behavior at its finest. To gain a first hand example of this, ask a liberal to volunteer to help the elderly via church service hours, play some cards with the vets, clean a few homes, or just donate to the food pantry. They will turn and run, as they are too concerned with global warming and the nuances of socialism to dirty thier hands with the "little people". Sorry- these are the realities of liberal behavior. Too much wine and cheese to be consumed to be concerned about their fellow man, as that is a distant concept that must only be addressed via polite conversation and false sentiment, not action.
Pretty hilarious that the propaganda makers have convinced you that the political ideology that works to expand opportunities for poor and working class people are elitist and the political ideology that works to expand opportunities for the wealthy are modest. You have been hoodwinked and bamboozled, young one.

The reality is we can't address global issues through local charities. Sounds nice, but when people become educated about these issues it becomes obvious that your approach would not succeed. Kind of like when anti-Jesus people were against Obama for trying to expand health care to the poor, they tried to argue that, somehow, local non-profits could shoulder the burden of 30 million unemployed. They just don't grasp the magnitude of such problems.
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Old 04-22-2011, 08:38 PM
 
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Pretty sick that the Progressives are sticking up for this convicted murderer and are so upset that knowledge of the violent past of the Earth Day co-founder has be re-exposed. Why is that? They run to the defense of Ayers/Dohrn whose bombs killed innocents too.

The radical left endorses violence by their own and defends those who have committed it who are unrepentant. Unreal & unhinged!
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Old 04-22-2011, 08:55 PM
 
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Pretty sick that the Progressives are sticking up for this convicted murderer and are so upset that knowledge of the violent past of the Earth Day co-founder has be re-exposed. Why is that? They run to the defense of Ayers/Dohrn whose bombs killed innocents too.

The radical left endorses violence by their own and defends those who have committed it who are unrepentant. Unreal & unhinged!
I scanned most of this thread and didn't see anyone defend him. How do you draw the conclusion you do? Why is not destroying our planet such a horrible thing for people to value? Seems pretty common sense conservative to me, given how bad pollution is in so many places.

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Old 04-23-2011, 09:15 AM
 
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Great. We will hope for a change. In the meantime, donate more to local charities, volunteer more, and participate in your local United Way. Until then, all the global "concern" and "sympathy" is just hollow talk. Again, this is liberal behavior at its finest. To gain a first hand example of this, ask a liberal to volunteer to help the elderly via church service hours, play some cards with the vets, clean a few homes, or just donate to the food pantry. They will turn and run, as they are too concerned with global warming and the nuances of socialism to dirty thier hands with the "little people". Sorry- these are the realities of liberal behavior. Too much wine and cheese to be consumed to be concerned about their fellow man, as that is a distant concept that must only be addressed via polite conversation and false sentiment, not action.
This is what I'm talking about. Generalizations. The charity work where I live is carried out by a ridiculously broad range of people from a million different spots on the political compass.
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Old 04-23-2011, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Well, these are the little secrets that we never hear about when it comes to the icons of liberalism.
For example: Were you aware that both Jerry Rubin and Abby Hoffman killed themselves.
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Old 04-23-2011, 09:40 AM
 
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Earth Day: The History of A Movement | Earth Day Network

The idea came to Earth Day founder Gaylord Nelson, then a U.S. Senator from Wisconsin, after witnessing the ravages of the 1969 massive oil spill in Santa Barbara, California. Inspired by the student anti-war movement, he realized that if he could infuse that energy with an emerging public consciousness about air and water pollution, it would force environmental protection onto the national political agenda. Senator Nelson announced the idea for a “national teach-in on the environment” to the national media; persuaded Pete McCloskey, a conservation-minded Republican Congressman, to serve as his co-chair; and recruited Denis Hayes as national coordinator. Hayes built a national staff of 85 to promote events across the land.
I went to UCSB, and that's what we were told about earth day.
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Old 04-23-2011, 08:56 PM
 
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Pretty hilarious that the propaganda makers have convinced you that the political ideology that works to expand opportunities for poor and working class people are elitist and the political ideology that works to expand opportunities for the wealthy are modest. You have been hoodwinked and bamboozled, young one.

The reality is we can't address global issues through local charities. Sounds nice, but when people become educated about these issues it becomes obvious that your approach would not succeed. Kind of like when anti-Jesus people were against Obama for trying to expand health care to the poor, they tried to argue that, somehow, local non-profits could shoulder the burden of 30 million unemployed. They just don't grasp the magnitude of such problems.

I am sorry. This is not propaganda, this is reality. The presumption of "opportunities for the poor" is actually enslavement of the poor via entitlements. The democratic party has created a modern day plantation system in which the poor and underpriveledged become dependent and conditioned to recieve handouts in exchange for votes. If that demographic ever rose out of poverty, they would no longer need democrats, thus the incentive for the liberal leadership to keep the poor right where they are. Social mobility would destroy the whole "relationship". "My system" (personal freedom and liberty) worked for the US for 150 years before social security, welfare, medicaid, and medicare. It is only after the whole hearted implementaton of these entitlement programs that the US has engaged in a precipitous slide. Socialism has made the nation weaker, not stronger.

One has to only examine the plight of the poor since the democrats have intiated programs to "help them". What has happened? More poor have been created and dependent further on the same democratic handlers who pretend to help them.

Hoodwinked and bamboozled, young one? I am 50 years old and have a net worth slightly over 20 million. I was a dirt poor kid, worked hard, believed in the system, and it worked for me. I am living proof that your "beliefs" are outright lies. There is no other nation in the world in which such things can happen. Socialism is a system which provides a rationalization for failure to the losers of society such that they do not have to blame themselves for thier lot in life. Evil capitalism and industry is "responsible" for you failure- it is not due to your own lack of personal initiative.

Regarding "global issues".................... who cares? We, as a nation, should only be concerned about THE UNITED STATES. We are not the bread basket or policeman for the world. WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PLIGHT OF OTHERS AS INDIVIDUALS. Liberals fail miserably in that regard, as they contribute little to charities that actually help the poor of the world with THE OPPORTUNITY to rise above poverty through education. Libs really believe that the government should do these things and will not contribute one dime from thier own pockets for the poor.
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