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Old 04-24-2011, 07:35 PM
 
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There's nothing fine with imprisoning people for practicing a religion who have harmed no one by doing so. The right to freely worship is universal regardless of what any particular government says, and this government is infringing on said right.
This is where you are wrong. There are no universal rights around worship. You are assuming there is, but no one has provided such right. For example, I forbid anyone to worship the devil in my home. I am doing nothing wrong here.

China's government owns China, and they can forbid the practice of worship anything they want.
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Old 04-24-2011, 07:42 PM
 
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Thankfully our founders were bright enough to understand there are certain fundemental human rights which are endowed by our Creator, not government, and that includes the freedom of speech and worship. Our Constitution only affirms universal human rights which can neither be granted nor eliminated with any legitimacy by governments nor individuals.
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Old 04-24-2011, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
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Why is this news? China isn't known for their stellar human rights record. It's unfortunate that they can't celebrate Easter, but that's how it is.
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Old 04-24-2011, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Why is this news? China isn't known for their stellar human rights record. It's unfortunate that they can't celebrate Easter, but that's how it is.
Exactly. And that hasn't stopped the US from doing business with China and it won't now.

[international frowning is all that will happen - maybe]
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Old 04-24-2011, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
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And people, the majority of whom are Christian, will buy Chinese products made in sweatshops by children without giving it a second thought. That's an aside, but it's still a valid point I think.
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Old 04-24-2011, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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No one cares. American Christians generally don't give a damn about the plight of Christians in other countries.
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Old 04-24-2011, 08:17 PM
 
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Thankfully our founders were bright enough to understand there are certain fundemental human rights which are endowed by our Creator, not government, and that includes the freedom of speech and worship. Our Constitution only affirms universal human rights which can neither be granted nor eliminated with any legitimacy by governments nor individuals.
Within the limits of the United States borders... correct.

No fundemental human rights are endowed by our "Creator". I don't think mother nature or science or whatever could care less. Our founders just had common sense.
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Old 04-24-2011, 08:19 PM
 
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And people, the majority of whom are Christian, will buy Chinese products made in sweatshops by children without giving it a second thought. That's an aside, but it's still a valid point I think.
You're absolutely right. I hate it when people buy clothes from third-world, sweatshop-laden countries to begin with. Seriously, why can't people just look at the tag and buy clothes made in the USA, Italy, Switzerland or France?
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Old 04-24-2011, 08:36 PM
 
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Unlike most Christians, I don't want to impose my beliefs on anybody else.
You don't want to impose your beliefs on anybody else while you are imposing your beliefs....

Good one!
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Old 04-24-2011, 08:39 PM
 
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No one cares. American Christians generally don't give a damn about the plight of Christians in other countries.
You are SOOOO right!

All those American Christian missionaries in other countries who get supported by American Christians....
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