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View Poll Results: How do you feel now that Obama has released his long form birth certificate?
I WAS and birther, I am convinced and I am ready to move on. 4 2.22%
I am still a birther and will just look for something new to complain about. 6 3.33%
I was never really a birther but I will continue to aggitate because it is fun to watch. 16 8.89%
I was not a birther and I was already convinced. 154 85.56%
Voters: 180. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-27-2011, 07:47 PM
 
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Uh oh.

Got a lot of document experts looking at this...document.

http://market-ticker.org/post=185094
Polarik and Techdude?

ETA: It's a effn blog.....
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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1. $14.5 trillion in debt And WHY are we in this debt and when did it start? History says it all started under the previous President and has continued because if the government had not bailed out many business they would have failed and this current mess would look like sunny days. FYI Both Dems and Repubs agreed to the bailouts and for good reason. Did you know that all the money that went to Banks was paid back and most of that to the automakers, as for the States, that is another story, both red and blue states.
Casper
What history shows that? There was already a national debt when G.W. Bush took office. It did not "start" under Bush.
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:54 PM
 
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That's what I figured. I was just pointing out that presidents (and candidates) have never had to release or provide a birth certificate (in fact, most of our presidents haven't even had birth certificates).

Fun fact: Ronald Regan was born in an apartment building in 1911 and didn't have a birth certificate. The Army wanted one when he enlisted, so the State of Illinois fabricated one for him in 1942 - 31 years after he was born.
You are correct. Obama posted a legal valid birth certificate years ago when he was not required by any law to show it at all. There is no presidential Birth certificate site. I've never even heard of their birth certificate being mentioned in regards to any past president. The legal document wasn't even enough, he was asked to release a non legal "long form" that contained the exact same information that he was born in Honolulu HI USA, natural born citizen.
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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you might want to shed a few of those millions. i'm pretty sure kids under 10 would NOT know what you are talking about.
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If it was representative of the Republic what would 13% of 313.232044 million people be?
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:54 PM
 
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Its the Tea Party ilk (mostly White) and Republicans (also mostly White) who were waving their "bigot flags" with this birther nonsense.

IF it had nothing to do with his skin color, why was the issue of his birth even raised? He submitted his birth certificate 3 years ago but the racists would not let it go.


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Exactly

Why don't you people understand that your bigotry is not able to be disguised by these petty faux "issues"? The birther movement was about a bunch of bigots who can not accept the fact that they have a man of color as their POTUS.
You forget that hillarys camp raised the flag shortly as well......but hey, whatever helps spread racial hate if it helps you feel good about "your team".

In return, Hillarys primary voters were also called racist.

Seriously, you should be ashamed of yourself.
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:55 PM
 
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Not true. Other presidents haven't released their birth certificates. Most of our presidents were never even issued birth certificates when they were born.

The most recent president who in fact wasn't issued a birth certificate at birth was Ronald Regan.
What? Do you have any questions about where Reagan was born? You can always go visit the Reagan Library.
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:56 PM
 
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Uh oh.

Got a lot of document experts looking at this...document.

You've GOT To Be Kidding Me (Birth Certificate) in [Market-Ticker]
yep. i already posted about it.

i've looked at the same file in illustrator. in my experience the culprit is just basic PDF conversion. the things that are " altered " wouldn't make sense if you were forging the document.

but, i'll wait. i'm sure by morning someone will pop up proclaiming to be a document forensics expert (....... again ).
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Psychologists postulate that people who belittle others are in fact doing it to build up their own damaged egos so as to reinforce their false feeling(s) of superiority to overcompensate for their own feelings low self esteem. Such is life..
You might be right. Clean up your own house.

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The neo-progs are piling on this like flies on s**t.
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Sounds like his "SHEEP" are falling right in line, with ALL that he says.
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Did you guys hear his "worthlessness" speak....right at the beginning of his "photo secession" he stated, he been amused (as he laughs) for the last 2 an half years has he watched this issue.


Come this next election let's get the last laugh on him.
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like you said earlier, trump made the puppet obama dance and gyrate quite wildly.

even the wapo is calling it a 'stunning reversal.'

White House releases Obama’s ‘long-form’ birth certificate - 44 - The Washington Post
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:57 PM
 
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you might want to shed a few of those millions. i'm pretty sure kids under 10 would NOT know what you are talking about.
That's not how we take census' 'round these parts...
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Old 04-27-2011, 08:01 PM
 
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What? Do you have any questions about where Reagan was born? You can always go visit the Reagan Library.
I don't have any doubt that Reagan was born in Illinois in 1911. I was just pointing out that no president other than Obama released his birth certificate while in office and that in fact most US presidents didn't even have birth certificates.

Reagan was born in an apartment building in Illinois in 1911. His birth wasn't recorded and no birth certificate was issued. When he enlisted in the military in 1942, they wanted a birth certificate. Reagan contacted the state of Illinois which then, 31 years after his birth, fabricated one for him.
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