FBI doesn't think annal or "fingering" counts as rape

[HurricaneDC]

Gary, that is particularly important since the FBI typically only talks about Part I offenses in their crime rate numbers.

e: Nvm you said that haha. But yeah, I'm guessing that when the media reports about crime at the national level, they only look at Part I offenses.

[AONE]

Originally Posted by texdav

I think that you have to read state laws on the elements of rape. In most cases the act has to be for sexual gradifcation of a person. Other wise doctors would be committting rape pretty often on male patients alone.I most cases I have read the insertio of a fnger is another charge such as sexaul contact laws in most states but agian it has to be for sexual gradification.

the difference is consent.... It is a choice to go to the doctor and submit to an exam.

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by Zimbochick

That is not what I am suggesting, and you know it. I have no time for your petty catfighting today.

The fact that you arent suggesting it, doesnt change the fact that if what you are suggesting would become reality, that would be the outcome..

[AONE]

Originally Posted by Phil306

You can call it whatever you want to call it in your own little brain. Its still not, legally rape. And I never said it was penetration with a foreign object, I said it was forced sodomy, which is a crime in and of itself.

That is the problem with the ignorant and naive: They allow their emotions to get in the way of law. And yes, like it or not, when it comes to criminal law, you are ignorant and naive. Just like I'm ignorant and naive to what a plumber, or electrician does.

Actually , you have no idea of what I know or don't know. You have no idea of the degrees and certifications I hold, the seminars I have attended or the attainments I have achieved.

If you believe so wholly in the correctness of the
"rule of law" then why is it those same Justices that sit on the highest representation of the law, don't agree? Law changes as emotions and political directions change,if you believe less then indeed you are Naive.

Because the FBI says it is a certain way doesn't mean it will always be that way or that it is in fact true. The reality is you are arguing about the definitions of words, which over time evolve and change. In less than 100 years the issue will be mute in all probability so who really cares?