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Old 05-03-2011, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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Oh good God. get real. the government didnt lie. "the government" gave the information they had. then it was determined the infomation wasnt 100% right. then they revised. and they revised pretty quickly.

same thing happened iwth Jessica Lynch.

Pat Tillman was a bit different. several officers tried a cover up. they got caught and in the end the government revised and told the truth.

Bird Flu was not shot in a war zone.
they were watching this on live feed t.v. , and is there no communication b/t the SEALS commander, other miltary brass and the President before he goes on national t.v .on a sunday night no less, and gives news people were waiting for for 10 years????

Oh good god, you need to get real and stop swallowing everything you hear hook, line, and sinker.

Lynch was blow up wayyyyy out of proportion and you admit the gov't lied about TIllman.
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:14 PM
 
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So is this wrong?

Obama watched Osama 'shot in left eye' on live video

Sitting in White House, Obama watched Osama die (http://www.inewsone.com/2011/05/03/sitting-in-white-house-obama-watched-osama-die/47962 - broken link)
News One India? Not exactly sure that is the report I would be looking for.

got something from AP?

shoot, I would be willing to accept MSNBC or FoxNews but News One India might not be exactly the reporting agency to trust.
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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How did Bush's pentagon "mistakenly" say Jessica Lynch fought back before she was captured. (Actually, she meekly surrendered)

How could the Bush's pentagon "mistakenly" claim that Jessica has stab and bullet wounds. (actually, she had ZERO stab or gun shot wounds, she had a broken arm, a broken thigh and a dislocated ankle)

How could the Bush's pentagon "mistakenly" claim they used a daring special forces rescue mission to get her back. (Actually, the Iraqi military had pulled out of the hospital the day before and there was ZERO resistance)

ALL were NOT true.

The truth about Jessica | World news | The Guardian

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I dont think Obama himself said it. some others certainly did. they did so because someone thought that was the report.

then it was revised when further information from those in the action reported. to specific questions.

come on people lets take a breath and deal with reality!
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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News One India? Not exactly sure that is the report I would be looking for.

got something from AP?

shoot, I would be willing to accept MSNBC or FoxNews but News One India might not be exactly the reporting agency to trust.

Better? I Didnt know about them either.

War News Updates: President Obama Saw Osama Bin Laden Die Via A Video Feed

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-live-TV.html

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...en-relief.html
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:19 PM
 
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they were watching this on live feed t.v. , and is there no communication b/t the SEALS commander, other miltary brass and the President before he goes on national t.v .on a sunday night no less, and gives news people were waiting for for 10 years????

Oh good god, you need to get real and stop swallowing everything you hear hook, line, and sinker.

Lynch was blow up wayyyyy out of proportion and you admit the gov't lied about TIllman.
admit? lets go with truth is pretty simple most of the time.

Lynch was certainly blown up. After Action Reports however did what they generally do. It cleared things up and popped that blown up balloon.

The same will happen with this action. the AAs will clear up details. It isnt lies. It is raw information that has not been reconciled.

seriously badger this isnt me swallowing anything. and my propensity is to believe NOTHING Obama says until proven he is right.

I am however versed in these things being fomer military and having an understanding of how news reports work, that early information is rarely 100% accurate.

Look, there were 20 eye witnesses to that action on the ground. then there was another group who watched some of this (we dont know how much) from video feeds.

ALL of the eye witnesses saw the action from different perspectives. when you get all their information, you can reconcile and get a clear picture.

if you rely on only one of them, then you are not going to get a clear picture.
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:22 PM
 
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maybe... still not buying this yet... doesnt change the fact that early reports generally arent fully accurate.
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:24 PM
 
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How did Bush's pentagon "mistakenly" say Jessica Lynch fought back before she was captured. (Actually, she meekly surrendered)

How could the Bush's pentagon "mistakenly" claim that Jessica has stab and bullet wounds. (actually, she had ZERO stab or gun shot wounds, she had a broken arm, a broken thigh and a dislocated ankle)

How could the Bush's pentagon "mistakenly" claim they used a daring special forces rescue mission to get her back. (Actually, the Iraqi military had pulled out of the hospital the day before and there was ZERO resistance)

ALL were NOT true.

The truth about Jessica | World news | The Guardian

because the earliest reports from zealous soldiers on the ground gave bad information that was eventually corrected by the government

I dont blame Bush for those bad early reports and I am not going to blame Obama for bad early reports here.

both are nonsense. and the Lynch situation is very good analogy to this one.
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:24 PM
 
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maybe... still not buying this yet... doesnt change the fact that early reports generally arent fully accurate.
Early reports usually are lacking information, they dont normally have information which is completely wrong..
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:25 PM
 
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This just gets to be more hilarious. Now lies perpetrated by the Bush administration are reason to disbelieve Obama.
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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maybe... still not buying this yet... doesnt change the fact that early reports generally arent fully accurate.
I think this is a better one.

Osama bin Laden killing: Barack Obama watched raid live - Telegraph
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