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Old 05-03-2011, 01:48 PM
 
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God doesn't create gays. They choose to be the most hated minority on the planet, because being treated like crap is fun!


 
Old 05-03-2011, 01:49 PM
 
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I find that hard to believe. If a hospital in-patient requests that his partner--or anyone else--be allowed in to see him, the hospital has to comply. Hospitals have no authority to deny visitation rights on their own. All the dying person has to do is tell the hospital who can come in as visitors and who cannot.
Actually, hospitals can deny visitation rights to non family members. This is one of the protections that marriage affords, that gays don't have access to.
 
Old 05-03-2011, 01:54 PM
 
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I find that hard to believe. If a hospital in-patient requests that his partner--or anyone else--be allowed in to see him, the hospital has to comply. Hospitals have no authority to deny visitation rights on their own. All the dying person has to do is tell the hospital who can come in as visitors and who cannot.
Actually, you're wrong, many gay partners have been denied visitation. for example:

"As her partner of 17 years slipped into a coma, Janice Langbehn pleaded with doctors and anyone who would listen to let her into the woman's hospital room. Eight anguishing hours passed before Langbehn would be allowed into Jackson Memorial Hospital's Ryder Trauma Center. By then, she could only say her final farewell as a priest performed the last rites on 39-year-old Lisa Marie Pond. Jackson staffers advised Langbehn that she could not see Pond earlier because the hospital's visitation policy in cases of emergency was limited to immediate family and spouses -- not partners. In Florida, same-sex marriages or partnerships are not recognized. "
Lesbian Denied Hospital Visitation As Girlfriend Died | San Francisco | Yelp

Obama finally did something about it, but it only recently took effect (this year) and only affects hospitals participating in Medicare and Medicaid programs.
Hospital Visitation Rights for Gay, Lesbian Partners Take Effect - ABC News
 
Old 05-03-2011, 01:54 PM
 
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Just because it is politically correct to believe gays are "born that way" doesn't mean other theories don't exist. It could be argued that no one is born gay and that early childhood enviornmental factors play the largest role.
 
Old 05-03-2011, 01:55 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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My gay neighbor who can't go into the hospital to be with his dying partner cares.

Life is not all about money.


Never been in a hospital, where the doors where locked, except on the baby ward.

My girlfriend and I walked right into ICU and to my best friends bedside when he had a motorcycle crash in the 80's. Nothing was said.
 
Old 05-03-2011, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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How Many Gays Must God Create Before We Accept That He Wants Them Around?
1. who says there is a god??

2. why should we put a genetic neurological MUTATION/DEFECT up on a pedistal
 
Old 05-03-2011, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Actually, hospitals can deny visitation rights to non family members. This is one of the protections that marriage affords, that gays don't have access to.
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that gays don't have access
you mean that any single person doesnt have access too


abolish ALL marriages and make equality reign
 
Old 05-03-2011, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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How many more X must God create before we accept that he wants them around.
You could fill in anything for X with that argument. Serial killers, arsonists, pedophiles...
It is not the most convincing of arguments.
 
Old 05-03-2011, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Newport, Rhode Island
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Being gay is totally just like skateboarding !
 
Old 05-03-2011, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Actually, you're wrong, many gay partners have been denied visitation. for example:

"As her partner of 17 years slipped into a coma, Janice Langbehn pleaded with doctors and anyone who would listen to let her into the woman's hospital room. Eight anguishing hours passed before Langbehn would be allowed into Jackson Memorial Hospital's Ryder Trauma Center. By then, she could only say her final farewell as a priest performed the last rites on 39-year-old Lisa Marie Pond. Jackson staffers advised Langbehn that she could not see Pond earlier because the hospital's visitation policy in cases of emergency was limited to immediate family and spouses -- not partners. In Florida, same-sex marriages or partnerships are not recognized. "
Lesbian Denied Hospital Visitation As Girlfriend Died | San Francisco | Yelp

Obama finally did something about it, but it only recently took effect (this year) and only affects hospitals participating in Medicare and Medicaid programs.
Hospital Visitation Rights for Gay, Lesbian Partners Take Effect - ABC News
all she had to do was go to a lawyer.. a POA (power of attorney) costs less than a marrige license (permission slip), and has more power than a marriage license
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