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Well if you want to know the real truth, of course I believe quite a few people can't handle it, but here it goes:
Yes, the way life is structured, some people ARE NOT going to get health care. Health care is expensive and is slowly bankrupting this country. Government run/supplied healthcare in other countries have them on the brink of bankruptcy, with a major withdraw of their monies from other social items, national defense, policing, roads/infrastructure, being stripped away to pay for healthcare.
Do we spend MILLIONS, upon MILLIONS of dollars, on a person who is born and/or gets a life threatening disease, to keep them alive for a few years, or do we take that money and use it for others who will live longer? My vote: Yes, let those people die. Life decisions are hard and difficult, but if letting a few die and using that money and resources to let many more live, well its an easy plan in my book.
And before you say it: Yes, this includes me and my family.
I asked a question that you and your 'pro' people have REFUSED to answer
how are you going to pay for it?????????????
where are you going to get the 3-5 trillion A YEAR it will cost to cover 320 million people????????????????
even frances health care system is in DEBT
The system will almost pay for itself..........
(1) The millions of jobs created by the creation of a UHC
(2) No need for medicare/aid
(3) No need for specialist Vet. care
(4) bargaining power to reduce cost of drugs
(5) Hiring time to private health insurers for use of x-ray machines, labs etc.
(6) Clinics for preventative medicine
(7) Small health tax as in the UK.
(8) Cutting down overseas funding and Foreign aid.
(9) Raising Tax on the top Earners.
(10) Stopping the millions spent on space exploration until economy can afford it
(11) Capping law suits
(12) Stopping tax loopholes for oil companies and corporations.
(13) Local Health Authorities running their health care. Health professionals not CEO'S.
(14) Using National Lotto profits to help fund the UHC.
(15) Rebuilding American Industries to supply the UHC and not depend on Foreign imports.
These are just a few ways that a UHC can be funded. Good management and learning from the bad points of other UHC's and implimenting their good points would also streamline the system etc etc etc etc..... America could have the finest health system in the Industrialised World.
I understood you to say he was recently diagnosed. My point is that he is an adult, the age that people get married, have children, raise families, pursue careers or educational opportunities. When do children turn into adults these days, and how to you tell the difference? If you turn over all responsibility for your lives to the State, we are all perpetual children waiting to be told what to do and when to do it. Sounds like prison to me.
Getting a Good Quality Health System for Every One in America, funded by the Govt. and run by health professionals is NOT turning over ALL responsibility to the State or anything close to that.
Well if you want to know the real truth, of course I believe quite a few people can't handle it, but here it goes:
Yes, the way life is structured, some people ARE NOT going to get health care. Health care is expensive and is slowly bankrupting this country. Government run/supplied healthcare in other countries have them on the brink of bankruptcy, with a major withdraw of their monies from other social items, national defense, policing, roads/infrastructure, being stripped away to pay for healthcare.
Do we spend MILLIONS, upon MILLIONS of dollars, on a person who is born and/or gets a life threatening disease, to keep them alive for a few years, or do we take that money and use it for others who will live longer? My vote: Yes, let those people die. Life decisions are hard and difficult, but if letting a few die and using that money and resources to let many more live, well its an easy plan in my book.
And before you say it: Yes, this includes me and my family.
Then I assume you are for this socialized healthcare. We are an unhealthy populace, so there will have to be rationing. If 70 year old uncle needs a transplant, forget about it, a 20 year old needs it more. Besides, your uncle got no exercise, has high blood pressure, clogged arteries, diabetes, and was spotted buying twinkies and potato chips on several occassions, against Dr.'s orders. The only way you can save your relative will be to leave the country, and head for another that provides care for money.
Burials and funerals are expensive too, how dare they put that burden on a grieving family. It's only right that the gov't pay for that too.
Well if you want to know the real truth, of course I believe quite a few people can't handle it, but here it goes:
Yes, the way life is structured, some people ARE NOT going to get health care. Health care is expensive and is slowly bankrupting this country. Government run/supplied healthcare in other countries have them on the brink of bankruptcy, with a major withdraw of their monies from other social items, national defense, policing, roads/infrastructure, being stripped away to pay for healthcare.
Do we spend MILLIONS, upon MILLIONS of dollars, on a person who is born and/or gets a life threatening disease, to keep them alive for a few years, or do we take that money and use it for others who will live longer? My vote: Yes, let those people die. Life decisions are hard and difficult, but if letting a few die and using that money and resources to let many more live, well its an easy plan in my book.
And before you say it: Yes, this includes me and my family.
Absolute Rubbish.
UHC's in other Countries is NOT bankrupting them. Certain Newspapers abroad have been telling us how a NHS is bankrupting a Country yet more Hospitals are built, More people are being treated and the Countries are not Bankrupt.
The Financial meltdown that just happened in c ountries with a UHC had nothing to do with healthcare, IT WAS CAUSED BY THE GREED OF THE FINANCIAL HOUSES. The closest to healthcare causing some of the recession is here in the United States with it's greedy Insurance Companies taking billions in bonuses etc etc. Maybe the Health system in the USA did Contribute to the recession here but America doesn't have a UHC so why did that happen?
NO ONE should be left to die, that is so awful.... shades of Nazi Germany.
Getting a Good Quality Health System for Every One in America, funded by the Govt. and run by health professionals is NOT turning over ALL responsibility to the State or anything close to that.
Of course it is. When you add 30 million to the system, how great is that quality going to be? Doctors are already reducing or dropping their Medicare patients. If you can get an apptmt. it may be weeks or months from now. Emergency rooms are already over-crowded, with long wait times.
You are taking the financial incentive away from doctors, so many are planning on leaving the practice. It will be a nightmare.
If I was diagnosed with cancer, I would seek out alternative therapy's. Your system is not going to allow me that choice. I want to make my own healthcare decisions, not some suit sitting at a conference table running stats.
It's so funny that Universal Healthcare works fine(with longer life expectancy) and is far cheaper in MOST developed countries; both parameters in relation to the United States.
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Of course it is. When you add 30 million to the system, how great is that quality going to be? Doctors are already reducing or dropping their Medicare patients. If you can get an apptmt. it may be weeks or months from now. Emergency rooms are already over-crowded, with long wait times.
You are taking the financial incentive away from doctors, so many are planning on leaving the practice. It will be a nightmare.
If I was diagnosed with cancer, I would seek out alternative therapy's. Your system is not going to allow me that choice. I want to make my own healthcare decisions, not some suit sitting at a conference table running stats.
The System as it is now cannot cope with the amount of patients it has let alone more....that means the system you have now is broken. Doctors are reducing or dropping medicare because their work ethic is profit and nothing more. Emergency rooms are overcrowded because that is where anyone without health cover is herded into. The system in its present form has failed and must be changed not put a bandaid on it for the convenience of the wealthy but CHANGED.... it does NOT work and is the most expensive and least efficient health system in the entire industrial world. To fail millions is a sad indictment of a health system.
Taking financial incentives away from Doctors? I thought they took the hippocratic oath, (or should i say in the USA the" HYPOCRATIC OATH") to do their best for their patients. The Oath does not say earn as much as you can from your patients.....in other Countries the Hippocratic oath means something to the Doctors, unfortunately not here for many Doctors out there. How do you seek out alternative therapies or make your own decissions when you can't afford to? You are living in a dream World but it has turned into a nightmare for millions.......
I asked a question that you and your 'pro' people have REFUSED to answer
how are you going to pay for it?????????????
where are you going to get the 3-5 trillion A YEAR it will cost to cover 320 million people????????????????
even frances health care system is in DEBT
Now just a freaking minute! When and where did I every say I was anti-health reform? I am not happy being misrepresented like that! Just because I don't get all whipped up about the dr's electric bill does not mean I am anti-reform! When did I ever say I thought the system should stay as it is now, that is a mess with a few "Obamacare" items alrady law and the Republicans threatening to "defund" Ocare? How dare you!
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