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Old 05-23-2011, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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This could be our future, a national health care system run by federal bureaucrats:

NHS waiting list: The number of patients who have had to wait longer than six months for treatment rose by 43% in the last year. Photograph: Antonio Olmos/ Antonio Olmos

Doctors are blaming financial pressures on the NHS for an increase in the number of patients who are not being treated within the 18 weeks that the government recommends.

New NHS performance data reveal that the number of people in England who are being forced to wait more than 18 weeks has risen by 26% in the last year, while the number who had to wait longer than six months has shot up by 43%.

In March this year, 34,639 people, or 11% of the total, waited more than that time to receive inpatient treatment, compared with 27,534, or 8.3%, in March 2010 – an increase of 26% – Department of Health statistics show.


NHS budget squeeze to blame for longer waiting times, say doctors | Society | The Guardian
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Old 05-23-2011, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Are the Brits demanding American system? If not, then you've the answer. The problem with NHS is the usual... the conservatives would love to kill it and do not shy away from adding problems at every opportunity.
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Old 05-23-2011, 09:43 AM
 
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Yea.

But we who have insurance will pay for those who don't.

Why should we have better care than those who won't pay for it?

Why shouldn't it all be equal, says the recipients?
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Old 05-23-2011, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Ironically, a lot of this has to do with the new conservative government in Britain:
Then there is no chance that they need to produce more physicians to take care of a growing population? i guess that is it but left oriented people just can't see that part of the problem.
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Old 05-23-2011, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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But we who have insurance will pay for those who don't.
And you're ignorant of the fact that you've been doing that with your insurance anyway. Besides, the fact that insurance itself wouldn't exist if someone weren't paying for someone else.
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Old 05-23-2011, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Governtment-run health care: It'll have all the efficiency of the Post Office and all the compassion of the IRS.

Ask a Brit what a Quality Adjusted Life Year is. The explanation will be a doozy.
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Old 05-23-2011, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Then there is no chance that they need to produce more physicians to take care of a growing population? i guess that is it but left oriented people just can't see that part of the problem.
What do you think about a complete privatization of Medicare within five years?

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Governtment-run health care: It'll have all the efficiency of the Post Office and all the compassion of the IRS.

Ask a Brit what a Quality Adjusted Life Year is. The explanation will be a doozy.
And yet, how many Brits would like to sign up for the American system? The fact that they have the freedom to use NHS, and to maintain private insurance for greater coverage is something I can see why a American conservatives are always bitter about.
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Old 05-23-2011, 09:57 AM
 
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I've never heard of a big push in the US to implement a British style healthcare system. The Left in the US wants a single-payer system.
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Old 05-23-2011, 09:59 AM
 
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And you're ignorant of the fact that you've been doing that with your insurance anyway. Besides, the fact that insurance itself wouldn't exist if someone weren't paying for someone else.
You're going to get a headache.

It's time that ALL people pay SOMETHING into the system, don't you think?

Or am I ignorant, mean and greedy?

Do you understand the concept of insurance?

Why should people who DON'T pay into the pool be allowed to play?
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Old 05-23-2011, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Proposing the complete privatization of Medicare would be the best think that ever happened to the progressives in this country. It would show that the right wing does not care about people only money. They would let grandma die if the money saved would allow tax breaks for their super wealthy sponsors.
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