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I don't see a problem setting the ground rules for playing the game.
As far as your graft point, even without setting the boundaries, there would potentially be bribes to gain even more influence and profit.
That's not good but that could be a good topic for another thread. How do we most efficiently find ethically challenged situations (you can make fun of me for that political speak) and then punish violators to send a message?
I'd rather see discussions that focus on that rather than just say let's just get rid of the oversight.
I'm not suggesting we get rid of oversight, but there is a very stark difference between saying
Tv's must be recycled in x manner, or computers must be taken to x facility, and not put into land dumps, and saying that you cant sell here unless you do x, especially considering the producers dont have access to the tv's or computers after they are sold..
This is similar to holding a gun manufacturing company liable because people use the guns for illegal purposes. Or car companies liable because people speed. Once a legal product is sold, then the responsibility with following the laws rest upon those who bought the product. I dont see how holding a manufacturor liable (i.e. revoking permission to sell in a state) because a consumer doesnt recycle their products properly, is an appropriate action.
I'm not suggesting we get rid of oversight, but there is a very stark difference between saying
Tv's must be recycled in x manner, or computers must be taken to x facility, and not put into land dumps, and saying that you cant sell here unless you do x, especially considering the producers dont have access to the tv's or computers after they are sold..
This is similar to holding a gun manufacturing company liable because people use the guns for illegal purposes. Or car companies liable because people speed. Once a legal product is sold, then the responsibility with following the laws rest upon those who bought the product. I dont see how holding a manufacturor liable (i.e. revoking permission to sell in a state) because a consumer doesnt recycle their products properly, is an appropriate action.
Picking the winners and losers, is the Progressive way.
Grease the palm and you have your privileges.
Letting the free market decide? Their buddies would not be the big elite status symbols they are.
Well, since those brands are UNKNOWN here anyway, I'd say the market has ALREADY DECIDED - and that decision is the same one the state made. They are just not that available here. If they WANT to be, they CAN be - they just need to do the same thing the OTHER vendors have ALREADY DONE (help us keep our clean state CLEAN).
Well, since those brands are UNKNOWN here anyway, I'd say the market has ALREADY DECIDED - and that decision is the same one the state made. They are just not that available here. If they WANT to be, they CAN be - they just need to do the same thing the OTHER vendors have ALREADY DONE (help us keep our clean state CLEAN).
Ken
Someone is buying them, or they would not be a business with products denied for sale in that State.
Is that your choice, or a states choice to penalize a company, that has no idea what a consumer will do with anything purchased.
Charging the candy company for the wrapper disposal fee.
Someone is buying them, or they would not be a business with products denied for sale in that State.
Not in any store I've ever seen - and I LIVE here.
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Charging the candy company for the wrapper disposal fee.
If candy wrappers were made of lead, cadmium and mercury I'd go along with that.
Disposing of electronics is NOT like disposing of a candy wrapper - THAT'S the WHOLE POINT.
Ken
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