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WHERE? I have said that is the primary purpose that many people get married. I have never said that is the sole and required purpose of marriage.
I'm giving you all kinds of evidence to back up my statements, and you're coming up with nothing.
You say that marriage is for procreation as if it's a fact, but it's just not.
You say that allowing same-sex marriage will lead to people marrying animals and objects, and that's truly insulting. I doubt you have any gay friends, but if you do, I hope you'll tell them exactly how you feel about this topic. They probably won't be your friends much longer.
You say you're in favor of civil unions. Did you vote yes or no on Arizona Proposition 107? It would have banned civil unions in the state. Fortunately, the ban failed.
Won't happen. One ruling by the SCOTUS over the will of the voters in every state that has had this measure on a ballot will trigger an uprising.... keep that in mind
Sort of like when the SCOTUS ruled that bans on interracial couples contracting civil marriages were unconstitutional despite all the states that had such laws and the vast majority of Americans who, at the time, supported such invidiously discriminatory laws?
Yawn. You and your polls. This doesn't negate the FACT that the majority of these states have gay marriage bans. If the most liberal states in this country do not even allow gay marriage, your idea that the majority of Americans are supportive of the measure is laughable and is based off of fantasy.
Let me state it again: If the MAJORITY of folks in these states are liberal and there gay marriage is not legal in most... then clearly your assumption that people are accepting of this abhorrence is false.
Try again.
voting trends are not equal to overall public opinion when barely 50 percent of the population turns out to vote...
If the most liberal states in this country do not even allow gay marriage, your idea that the majority of Americans are supportive of the measure is laughable and is based off of fantasy.
Actually, some of the most liberal states do allow same-sex marriage. (Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut)
And I never said the majority of Americans support same-sex marriage.
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Let me state it again: If the MAJORITY of folks in these states are liberal and there gay marriage is not legal in most... then clearly your assumption that people are accepting of this abhorrence is false.
There is no state with a liberal majority, so you're presenting a false premise.
what uprising? you do realize 53 percent of the population now approves of gay marriage? and it's climbing?
that is how the supreme court works my friend.. it's how it's always worked.. and I severely doubt there will be any sort of uprising.. just you soiling your pants and having a rant in your living room.. hardly an "uprising"
you better start preparing yourself now.. it will come.. I'm sorry it upsets you so.. but it's people's lives and families that are being hurt.. and really it won't affect you at all other than losing some sort of "holier than thou" battle
According to what sham poll? The majority of Americans support gay marriage, but it is still only legal in a handful of states? That makes no sense. If the majority of Americans were supportive of gay marriage, we wouldn't keep voting gay marriage bills down.
The Supreme Court will uphold the will of the people. The Court does not exist to mindlessly cater to the desires of a few rogue people. If gay marriage were to be legalized there would be a great deal of soiled pants, mainly of the justices for going against the will of the people. If marriage between the gays is allowed the country will have officially gone down the tubes.
Nothing is coming. I, you, and everyone else on this thread will be six feet under in rotted out caskets before this is ever entertained. I am sorry if you are being hurt, but our laws are not in place to cater to a few people's "feelings."
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If heterosexual marriage doesn't fall under 'just any cause', then homosexual marriage shouldn't fall under 'just any cause'. The onus is on you to show that homosexual and heterosexual marriages are fundamentally different.
You half-heartedly attempted to use procreation as an example, but that didn't work since not all heterosexual married couples procreate.
So, you try again.
Homosexual marriage is a unnecessary sham.
I have repeatedly stated my clear point. Go back and read.
If marriage between the gays is allowed the country will have officially gone down the tubes.
Nothing is coming. I, you, and everyone else on this thread will be six feet under in rotted out caskets before this is ever entertained.
That's what people said 10 years ago, and now there are 5 states plus DC that perform same-sex marriages, and two other states (MD and NY) recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states.
In total, there are now about 20 states that perform or recognize same-sex marriages or civil unions. Twelve years ago, there were none.
there's where you're wrong.. you said "should" but I'm sorry dear.. it's NOT..and never has been under the law..
before the last couple centuries you speak of.. marriage was basically ownership of a woman by a man for even MORE centuries..
how conservative do you want to be? care to make women property again?
Please don't call me "dear." I am a heterosexual man.
I said should, never said that it IS a requirement.
I have repeatedly stated my clear point. Go back and read.
I agree that government endorsed marriage is a unnecessary.
But, since it would seem to be here to stay, the only reasonable position is that it should not be restricted based upon sex.
I have read your posts in this thread and nothing the 'debate coach' has said has been intelligent or clear.
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The Supreme Court will uphold the will of the people. The Court does not exist to mindlessly cater to the desires of a few rogue people.
Nor does it exist to uphold the will of the people.
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If gay marriage were to be legalized there would be a great deal of soiled pants, mainly of the justices for going against the will of the people. If marriage between the gays is allowed the country will have officially gone down the tubes.
That the country allows this continued injustice, and that so many stand up to voice their irrational support of this injustice, is a much clearer sign of the nation's direction.
If Vermonters and Connecticutians were to go to the polls on this matter the gays would not be getting married there.
Got any proof of that? Or is this just another opinion of yours that you assume to be a fact?
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I am a liberal Arizonan.
Yeah, and I'm the King Of Egypt.
Again, did you vote yes or no on Proposition 107 in Arizona?
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