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That's 10 million killed over hundreds of years, versus 6 million killed in under 50 years. Keep in mind that the holocaust was much more recent as well, so it stands to reason the effects should be much stronger now.
Not necessarily.
The jews consider themselves as having been persecuted for thousands of years.
But, I feel ongoing racism, especially toward descendants of American slavery is a bigger thorn in the side of today's "underacheiving" black Americans. Notice how much "better" black imports from the Caribbean or Africa are doing here.
You refute your own point. If racism is holding back the descendants of slaves, why do the "imports" flourish in a supposedly racist country? Especially 1rst and 2nd generation "imports" who have no discernible accent? If racists discriminate and hold people back, you would expect the entire lot to struggle.
Also explain to me why asians and Indian-Americans do so amazingly well academically and economically in this country, if it's so racist here.
However, the persecution of african-americans is still on-going to a much larger degree than that of the jews.
Sorry, I lost my train of thought!...
There is no denying that. I don't doubt it's a factor, I'm not one of these guys who will sit here and flat out deny that racism exists, it does.
I do think that we have more stereotypes these days, rather than blind racism (two very different things), but both have their negative effects nonetheless, and have the same end result.
It is interesting to me that certain things have actually gotten worse for the black community in the last 50 years (out of wedlock birth rates for example) while racism has no doubt declined faster than at any other point in American history.
I understand... but just for the record, I think the 10 million refers to Africans in the slave trade itself... Not the African-Americans who were tortured and killed over the generations on American soil...
You refute your own point. If racism is holding back the descendants of slaves, why do the "imports" flourish in a supposedly racist country? Especially 1rst and 2nd generation "imports" who have no discernible accent? If racists discriminate and hold people back, you would expect the entire lot to struggle.
Also explain to me why asians and Indian-Americans do so amazingly well academically and economically in this country, if it's so racist here.
I know you don't believe this and probably never will, but to this day blacks are much more discriminated than any other ethnic group. Asian and Indian Americans definitely face discrimination, don't get me wrong, but to a much lesser degree than blacks.
And you also have to consider that the majority of asian and indians that immigrate over here are upper class. The only "lower class" immigrants we have here on a large scale are south east asians refugees from the vietnam era.
I understand... but just for the record, I think the 10 million refers to Africans in the slave trade itself... Not the African-Americans who were tortured and killed over the generations on American soil...
Not trying to pick a fight... just saying...
You may be right, I just looked this up since I never did know the number to be honest. The fact is though, once millions are killed, it can't get much worse. Also, in the last 100 years, the numbers aren't even close.
It is interesting to me that certain things have actually gotten worse for the black community in the last 50 years (out of wedlock birth rates for example) while racism has no doubt declined faster than at any other point in American history.
It's gotten worse for everyone, not just blacks. Due to republican policies our society in general has regressed, and the regression isn't limited to one particular race.
I know you don't believe this and probably never will, but to this day blacks are much more discriminated than any other ethnic group. Asian and Indian Americans definitely face discrimination, don't get me wrong, but to a much lesser degree than blacks.
You left out that the poster also mentioned African immigrants. Same racial makeup as American blacks (if anything, they're more black, since many American blacks are mixed), but they seem to do much better.
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