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but I think all donations made to churches, unions, political pacs, committees should ALL be taxable
if a politician RECEIVES donations of 1 billion dollars he/she should pay taxes on that INCOME....be that would be the only tax a liberal would never pass
Thats what I was referring to.
If the church brings in 100,000 dollars a year, and gives half of it to a preacher, and didn't spend it on charity, then they are hiring a good CEO essentially.
Do corporations not have to pay taxes on the earnings that they give to their CEO as his salary? They do have to pay taxes on that. I think churches should operate under the same principle.
You give the money to charitable work, fine, no taxes. You use it to expand your building, pay a preacher, or throw a party, then that money should be taxed as income to the church.
If the church brings in 100,000 dollars a year, and gives half of it to a preacher, and didn't spend it on charity, then they are hiring a good CEO essentially.
Do corporations not have to pay taxes on the earnings that they give to their CEO as his salary? They do have to pay taxes on that. I think churches should operate under the same principle.
You give the money to charitable work, fine, no taxes. You use it to expand your building, pay a preacher, or throw a party, then that money should be taxed as income to the church.
I dont care if the money is used for charity or not.. money coming in is INCOME and should be taxed as such
I dont care if it is the DNC, RNC, NAACP, AFLCIO, an enviromental group a church, or an athiest group.. or whatever...if they RECEIVE money that money should be taxed....doent matter if its a group or an individual
I dont care if the money is used for charity or not.. money coming in is INCOME and should be taxed as such
I dont care if it is the DNC, RNC, NAACP, AFLCIO, an enviromental group a church, or an athiest group.. or whatever...if they RECEIVE money that money should be taxed....doent matter if its a group or an individual
Now that I disagree with.
If GE donates earnings to the red cross, they pay 0 taxes on the earnings donated.
Churches should be no different. Growing the church, paying for personnel, paying bills, etc should be taxable income. Giving it to poor people or providing them with food should not be taxed.
I just think that everyone should be treated equally, as of today, that is not the case.
but I think all donations made to churches, unions, political pacs, committees should ALL be taxable
That is certainly constitutional. All income can be taxed, there are no provisions within the Sixteenth Amendment to allow for exceptions. However, it may not be very popular. It would also reduce the amount that is being donated.
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero
if a politician RECEIVES donations of 1 billion dollars he/she should pay taxes on that INCOME....be that would be the only tax a liberal would never pass
If all income is taxable, and you make no allowances for donations, then taxing those donations would amount to double taxation. A better solution would be to prohibit the recipients of donors from using those donations as personal income. They could only use the donation for the purpose in which it was intended.
If GE donates earnings to the red cross, they pay 0 taxes on the earnings donated.
Churches should be no different. Growing the church, paying for personnel, paying bills, etc should be taxable income. Giving it to poor people or providing them with food should not be taxed.
I just think that everyone should be treated equally, as of today, that is not the case.
if GE donates (gives) (just a number) 1 million to the red cross..then the red cross RECEIVED 1 million,, it had an INCOME of at least 1 million..then they (the red cross) should pay a TAX on that income...let's say (and I think all taxes should be a flat rate across the board) 10%...that means the charity part still has 900k..but uncle sam go his 100k
TRILLIONS of dollars go untaxed due to 'non-profit' status...its time to do the liberal thing and tax them
why discriminate, when it comes to taxes..it shouldnt natter how much you made, or was donated, or received as a donation..income is income and should be taxed evenly to EVERYONE...either that or tax spending (a consumption tax)
If GE donates earnings to the red cross, they pay 0 taxes on the earnings donated.
Churches should be no different. Growing the church, paying for personnel, paying bills, etc should be taxable income. Giving it to poor people or providing them with food should not be taxed.
I just think that everyone should be treated equally, as of today, that is not the case.
I agree, in part. Everyone should be treated equally under the law, and any payments a church makes for personnel (including priests, nuns, pastors, preachers, law-clergy, etc., etc.) is personal income and should be taxable.
However, the First Amendment says that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." which was latter applied to the States and local government by the Supreme Court in 1925. Which would prohibit local, State, and Federal laws, including tax laws, from being enacted with regard to an established religion. That would exempt the property of any established religion from being taxed, but it does not prohibit the personal income from being taxed since that is under the authority of the Sixteenth Amendment.
Actually, it does. What part of "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." are you not able to comprehend? That includes tax laws, for those who are too stupid to realize that taxes are laws enacted by Congress.
So churches are exempt from all laws enacted by Congress now? Really?
Seems like you slept through 5th grade civics class. Tax law is not a law that establishes a religion, or prohibits the establishing of a religion or has anything to do with it. So it has nothing to do with it.
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