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Old 06-18-2011, 05:37 PM
 
Location: North America
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Pay kids based on performance and behavior:

The top 10% as judged by grades, test scores, disciplinary actions (suspensions and detention), teacher evaluations and administrator evaluations.

The brightest, hardest working kids who behave well get $15,000 per academic year. Each year they repeat in the top 10% they get a 5% bonus.

All other kids get zilch. But the poor performers are allowed all of the tutoring they need to improve.

Teachers with at least 20% of their classes with these SuperKids™ get an extra $40,000 bonus per academic year. All other teachers get a base $35,000 plus $2,000 for each year they have been employed and certified. The poorer the zip code, the further their salaries will go.

Schools with at least 20% of their SuperKids™ (based on a state average of grades, test scores, number of suspensions, etc.) get an extra $200,000 per year.

Then we shutdown and liquidate the Department of Education. All former DoE employees can then work to be certified as school teachers in their hometowns.

This idea is cheaper than tossing billions down the drain and it would work like a charm.
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Pay kids based on performance and behavior:

The top 10% as judged by grades, test scores, disciplinary actions (suspensions and detention), teacher evaluations and administrator evaluations.

The brightest, hardest working kids who behave well get $15,000 per academic year. Each year they repeat in the top 10% they get a 5% bonus.

All other kids get zilch. But the poor performers are allowed all of the tutoring they need to improve.

Teachers with at least 20% of their classes with these SuperKids™ get an extra $40,000 bonus per academic year. All other teachers get a base $35,000 plus $2,000 for each year they have been employed and certified. The poorer the zip code, the further their salaries will go.

Schools with at least 20% of their SuperKids™ (based on a state average of grades, test scores, number of suspensions, etc.) get an extra $200,000 per year.

Then we shutdown and liquidate the Department of Education. All former DoE employees can then work to be certified as school teachers in their hometowns.

This idea is cheaper than tossing billions down the drain and it would work like a charm.
Except in the inner city schools which would have ZERO teachers.
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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I'd like to see public school building maintenance get better funding. With the right equipment, instances of sickness would be greatly decreased. Units with UV lights, two or three stage filters, humidity control systems, and computer controlled HVAC would reduce mold, viruses, and energy cost. A well staffed maintenance crew can perform preventative maintenance and spot potential problems allowing them time to order what they need and schedule a down time to make repairs. In some school districts, maintenance are treated as a burden with regular cuts to budget and staffing and then get shat on when the boiler goes down, AC breaks, or the roof leaks all because maintenance didnt have the money nor the manpower to fix these problems.
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:59 PM
 
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The solution to improving the public education system is TOTAL STANDARDIZATION. A national standardized test should be administer all public high school seniors in order to graduate. This would ensure that all public school students are graduating and entering the working world on the same knowledge level. This would also put an end to students in some schools graduating on 3rd grade math and reading level, while others in well-to-do suburban and rural areas graduate at the 2nd and 3rd year college level.

This standardization should not only apply academics, but also athletics. All public schools should offer standardized athletic programs. This would put an end to some public schools offering elite sports for students such as Lacrosse, archery and rowing, etc., while other public schools are unable to offer such exclusive athletic programs to their students.

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Old 06-18-2011, 05:59 PM
 
Location: North America
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Except in the inner city schools which would have ZERO teachers.
Then it looks like those kids and parents have their work cut out for them. This is real life...not fantasy camp. Work hard or die...pick one.
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Old 06-18-2011, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The solution to improving the public education system is TOTAL STANDARDIZATION. A national standardized test should be administer all public high school seniors in order to graduate. This would ensure that all public school students are graduating and entering the working world on the same knowledge level. This would also put an end to students in some schools graduating on 3rd grade math and reading levell, while others in well-to-do suburban and rural areas are graduate at the 2nd and 3rd year college level.

This standardization should not only apply to the academics, but also athletics. All public schools should offer the standardized athletic programs. This would put an end to some public schools offering elite sports for students such as Lacrosse, archery and rowing, etc., while other public schools are unable to offer such exclusive athletic programs to its students.
We have that already..called the SAT and ACT.
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Old 06-18-2011, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Then it looks like those kids and parents have their work cut out for them. This is real life...not fantasy camp. Work hard or die...pick one.
wow..tough love eh ? Well, I'm all for "sink or swim" tactics.
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Old 06-18-2011, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Parents need to be parents, it all starts at home. Parents need to teach their kids the value of a good education, lead by example.
How many out there view the school system as a day care, simply because they have to work 12 hrs a day to pay the mortgage?
a. Just get rid of public schools, and let the private sector teach.

b. Or, let private-sector schools compete with the public sector schools, and support performance.
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Old 06-18-2011, 06:21 PM
 
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Year round school. Higher standards.

Private for profit colleges are ****, why make it mandatory for our kids to go to those places.
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Old 06-18-2011, 06:23 PM
 
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We have that already..called the SAT and ACT.
You don't have to take the SAT or the ACT. He's saying you'd have to take something like them in order to graduate, not to get into a good college.
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