New Miss USA :"evolution should be taught in public schools."

[Wayland Woman]

Originally Posted by TRUEGRITT
I believe that the modern English version was translated directly from the original scrolls, I suspect that most versions were.

And whole passages of the Bible can take on different meanings from the originial text with the mistranslation of a single word.

"Don't you see? The American Standard translation orders men to triumph over sin, and you call sin ignorance. The King James translation makes a promise in ‘Thou shalt,’ meaning that men will surely triumph over sin. But the Hebrew word, the word timshel—‘Thou mayest’—that gives a choice. It might be the most important word in the world. That says the way is open.” East of Eden discussion of Cain and Abel

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by Calvinist

I'm still trying to figure out how you and others can completely miss a simple argument.

We haven't missed it. We have destroyed it. And you continue to run away from the destruction.

It's as if you fear that turning back to look will turn you into a pillar of salt.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by Calvinist

How is that any different from what scientists believe today? No scientist today will tell you that life comes from non-life...yet they all believe the first life that existed came from abiogenesis...or non-life.

You completely contradict yourself there, and in the process misrepresent what scientists will or will not "say."In fact, the current scientific view is that the boundary between living and non-living is essentially arbitrary.

Originally Posted by Calvinist

Simply put, I find it easier to believe in the first cause being something that is bigger and not a part of the universe.

It is a good thing that scientific progress does not depend on what Calvinist personally finds "easier to believe." We would still be rubbing sticks together to make fire.

Originally Posted by Calvinist

Your side has no answer of "what caused the universe?"

The universe is not caused. It is eternal and uncreated. We have covered this dozens of times by now.

Of course... you also have run away from it dozens of times now.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by Calvinist

The earliest copies today are fairly close to them.

"Fairly close" is an entirely mediocre standard when divine intervention is asserted. It suggests a half-assed deity who does shoddy work.

[PanTerra]

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