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Old 06-21-2011, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Oh for goodness sakes, I am embarrassed for the original poster. I am also disappointed I have to point out there are well established biochemical reasons for each of the diseases questioned. Although less well understood in ADHD.
There are biochemical reasons for everything humans do. Does that mean they are all diseases?

The imbalance can become to severe, which is when we get clinical depression and things of that ilk.

Lets take sex addiction for instance. There is a biochemical reason as to why men in particular want to have lots of sex, with lots of different reasons, but that doesn't mean its a disease. Its normal human behavior. Most depression and anxiety are normal human behavior.

My dog was stolen from my house two weeks ago, and that depresses me. But the only treatment I need is my dog back, or to slap the hell out of the girl that stole her.
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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There are biochemical reasons for everything humans do. Does that mean they are all diseases?

The imbalance can become to severe, which is when we get clinical depression and things of that ilk.

Lets take sex addiction for instance. There is a biochemical reason as to why men in particular want to have lots of sex, with lots of different reasons, but that doesn't mean its a disease. Its normal human behavior. Most depression and anxiety are normal human behavior.

My dog was stolen from my house two weeks ago, and that depresses me. But the only treatment I need is my dog back, or to slap the hell out of the girl that stole her.
Ummmm there aren't biochemical imbalances for everything humans do. When biochemical imbalances occur you have disease.
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Ummmm there aren't biochemical imbalances for everything humans do. When biochemical imbalances occur you have disease.
If I'm hungry, then my stomach sends signals to my brain, which creates chemicals that make me feel hungry.

Everything we do is controlled by chemicals that are created in the body, everything.
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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Do they exist, or is it just a way drug companies can find away to get people to buy their pills?
I'm sure it exists, but in a much smaller segment than the pharmaceutical companies would like us to believe.
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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If I'm hungry, then my stomach sends signals to my brain, which creates chemicals that make me feel hungry.

Everything we do is controlled by chemicals that are created in the body, everything.
Correct. When there is an imbalance in those chemicals, there is a disruption in those signals, hence disease.

In depression there is an an imbalance in neurotransmitters, antidepressants correct that imbalance.
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Correct. When there is an imbalance in those chemicals, there is a disruption in those signals, hence disease.

In depression there is an an imbalance in neurotransmitters, antidepressants correct that imbalance.
Very true, and I will never deny the reality of clinical depression. Especially when one sees it first hand.
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:35 PM
 
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Yes they are real. Big Pharma exploited them but that doesn't mean the thing they exploited isn't real.
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:39 PM
 
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Yes they are real. Big Pharma exploited them but that doesn't mean the thing they exploited isn't real.
Exactly. A good case in point is depression in the elderly. It was a condition that was widely overlooked until pharma started to promote use of antidepressants in this population. It really has had positive results.
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:40 PM
 
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I'm sure it exists, but in a much smaller segment than the pharmaceutical companies would like us to believe.
I don't even think it's that so much as meds are brought in for treatment too soon too early. I think a lot of people do have great deals of anxiety and depression, but offering therapy, getting a pet, and regular exercise just isn't as financially lucrative (and requires more effort from the person) as offering a pill. And because many people don't want to put effort into getting better they also opt for the pill over other treatments that in most cases, are equally effective. I do think there is a time and place when meds need to be used, but they should be a last resort, not a first resort.
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:45 PM
 
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They do exist.

Big pharma often wants us to believe that drugs are the main way to treat them. This is not true for all of them. Anxiety and depression can often be controlled and overcome by exercise, a healthy diet, maintaining a good network of friends, therapy, prayer, meditation, journaling, support groups, etc.
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