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Old 06-29-2011, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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False analogy. Mr. Bachman is receiving medicaid money as income.

Are you saying he should refuse to treat poor patients?
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Old 06-29-2011, 12:04 AM
 
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You don't know anything about me. You claim I have no principles and you are the one that defends hypocritical behavior. LMFAO.
Because it takes principles to advocate something that will actually harm you personally, because you think it's best for the country maybe? I'm not even necessarily defending her, just making a point.

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Typical teabagger, resorts to personal attacks. Go defend hypocrite Bachman. I'm done with you as well

Welcome to my ignore, 2nd person on the list in 2 years.
Wow. You are such a badass.
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Old 06-29-2011, 12:07 AM
 
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Are you saying he should refuse to treat poor patients?
Strawman technique, exhibit A.

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Old 06-29-2011, 12:07 AM
 
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I admit, I am taking secret joy in this. Their desperation 17 months out is pretty satisfying.

+1 Agreed.

If Bachmann pulling even to the RINO gets their panties in a bunch like this, the next year should be hysterical.
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Old 06-29-2011, 12:12 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Katiana View Post
False analogy. Mr. Bachman is receiving medicaid money as income.
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Are you saying he should refuse to treat poor patients?
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Strawman technique, exhibit A.

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Is there a way for him to refuse Medicaid payments without refusing Medicaid patients?
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Old 06-29-2011, 12:39 AM
 
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"While Rep. Michelle Bachmann, R-Minn., has forcefully denounced the Medicaid program for swelling the "welfare rolls," the mental health clinic run by her husband has been collecting annual Medicaid payments totaling over $137,000 for the treatment of patients since 2005, according to new figures obtained by NBC News."

"The previously unreported payments are on top of the $24,000 in federal and state funds that Bachmann & Associates, the clinic founded by Marcus Bachmann, a clinical therapist, received in recent years under a state grant to train its employees, state records show. The figures were provided to NBC News in response to a Freedom of Information request."

Bachmann's husband got $137,000 in Medicaid funds - politics - Decision 2012 - msnbc.com

Are the Bachman's socialists or hypocrits?
This is f-ing serious!

This kind of information is what should be out there about candidates; not silly gaffes.
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Old 06-29-2011, 03:42 AM
 
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False analogy. Mr. Bachman is receiving medicaid money as income.
False economic understanding: Mr. Bachman is receiving Medicaid money as business "revenue." Revenue does not automatically translate into personal "income." Unless of course you are now prepared to declare Planned Parenthood as receiving federal money for abortions. That's the very same logic that you are now using to attack Bachmanmn. Funny how that whole line of demarcation thing works, huh?
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Old 06-29-2011, 03:48 AM
 
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I'm going to explain it to you one more time. Perhaps I should make a thread.

We are not criticizing him accepting the payments. WE are criticizing BAchman's stance on a program, which she clearly benefits from.

I don't criticize adults who drink, I drink myself, I will call an adult who gets smashed and than condemns the sale of alcohol a hypocrite.
she benefitted from the funds because they paid for a service that her husband provided. would you rather have had her husband kick those patients to the curb?
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Old 06-29-2011, 04:05 AM
 
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To rabidly attack Bachmann over this is pretty desperate. I don't even know much about the woman but its clear that whoever gets noticed among the potential republican candidates suddenly get viciously singled out to be discredited.
If you're going to hate this person( or Ron Paul or Mitt Romney) and condemn them, at least come up with something to hate and condemn them for. This is a non story, you on the left may think it is but nobody else will take it seriously. You only isolate yourselves and expose yourselves for what you are when you act like this. You screamed bloody murder when Obama was criticized over issues big and small, real or imagined. Congratulations, you've now shown you're just as bad as those you rail against.
And to borrow a page from your playbook, if anybody that criticized Obama was a racist, I guess that means that anybody who criticizes Bachmann or Palin is sexist and a misogynist. No wonder Hillary was denied the nomination.
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Old 06-29-2011, 06:22 AM
 
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"While Rep. Michelle Bachmann, R-Minn., has forcefully denounced the Medicaid program for swelling the "welfare rolls," the mental health clinic run by her husband has been collecting annual Medicaid payments totaling over $137,000 for the treatment of patients since 2005, according to new figures obtained by NBC News."

"The previously unreported payments are on top of the $24,000 in federal and state funds that Bachmann & Associates, the clinic founded by Marcus Bachmann, a clinical therapist, received in recent years under a state grant to train its employees, state records show. The figures were provided to NBC News in response to a Freedom of Information request."

Bachmann's husband got $137,000 in Medicaid funds - politics - Decision 2012 - msnbc.com

Are the Bachman's socialists or hypocrits?

$137,000 over the last six years????? That probably represents a HUGE LOSS to thier clinic. This is why we limit the number of medicaid patients we see in our practice.
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