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You know who does that Tony? Women who desperately want their baby.
But something goes horribly wrong.
The woman is in danger of losing her life.
The baby is horribly deformed and will suffer terribly only to die soon after birth.
And then, as if losing a child she desperately wanted isn't enough, the pro-life crowd will call her a murderer and persecute her if given the chance.
Sad, isn't it?
As you saw, with your own two eyes, women that were seeking to abort in the third tri-mester, just because they wanted to.....were turned away.
Just more FACTS that pro-lifers refuse to acknowledge.
no one and I mean no one should be allowed to abort in the 3rd trimester unless for some unknown reason mom's life is in danger (which is next to impossible with todays tech) Before that, even most pro-lifers understand aborting a child that is totally mal-formed. There are a handful that may not, but the majority do understand.
You know who does that Tony? Women who desperately want their baby.
But something goes horribly wrong.
The woman is in danger of losing her life.
The baby is horribly deformed and will suffer terribly only to die soon after birth.
And then, as if losing a child she desperately wanted isn't enough, the pro-life crowd will call her a murderer and persecute her if given the chance.
Sad, isn't it?
As you saw, with your own two eyes, women that were seeking to abort in the third tri-mester, just because they wanted to.....were turned away.
Just more FACTS that pro-lifers refuse to acknowledge.
Trust me, this is the most soul crushing place to be in...... and if you've never "been there" you can't possibly understand how awful it is to make a choice like this.
Trust me, this is the most soul crushing place to be in...... and if you've never "been there" you can't possibly understand how awful it is to make a choice like this.
The part I dont get about the "mothers life is in danger" why does the baby have to die? Why cant an emergency c-section happen and the baby at least be given a chance to fight.
Trust me, this is the most soul crushing place to be in...... and if you've never "been there" you can't possibly understand how awful it is to make a choice like this.
I don't know your situation but I agree, there can be a time when the choice is very painful. It happened in our family last year, but not in the 3rd trimester. That is where I have a problem.
Trust me, this is the most soul crushing place to be in...... and if you've never "been there" you can't possibly understand how awful it is to make a choice like this.
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Originally Posted by OhioChic
The part I dont get about the "mothers life is in danger" why does the baby have to die? Why cant an emergency c-section happen and the baby at least be given a chance to fight.
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Originally Posted by nmnita
I don't know your situation but I agree, there can be a time when the choice is very painful. It happened in our family last year, but not in the 3rd trimester. That is where I have a problem.
Nita
And this is why third trimester abortions should be a choice between a woman and the doctors involved.
It is impossible to legislate every single circumstance.
It is a horrible, heartwrenching decision, a decision that should be made by the people who are actually there, living it......not some holier-than-thou bureaucrat sitting behind a desk thousands of miles away.
And this is why third trimester abortions should be a choice between a woman and the doctors involved.
It is impossible to legislate every single circumstance.
It is a horrible, heartwrenching decision, a decision that should be made by the people who are actually there, living it......not some holier-than-thou bureaucrat sitting behind a desk thousands of miles away.
We're talking about THIRD trimester abortions here. 27 weeks and later. A baby is viable at 24 weeks. Why would you kill a baby that has a huge survival chance? There is not one not even ONE good reason to do this.
We're talking about THIRD trimester abortions here. 27 weeks and later. A baby is viable at 24 weeks. Why would you kill a baby that has a huge survival chance? There is not one not even ONE good reason to do this.
I already answered that and several women who have had to make that decision have chimed in on these types of threads.
You are not a doctor, YOU do not know what circumstances may arise.
Third trimester abortions are VERY RARE.....and when they are done.....they are done for a GOOD REASON.
FYI.....women do die in childbirth....you seem to think it never happens in this day and age.....it DOES.
In the case of third trimester abortions.....the woman involved almost always desperately WANTED the child.
Even in states that do not have restrictions on third trimester abortion......good luck trying to find a physician willing to do one just because a woman asks for it. It just doesn't happen.
FACT: Sometimes, you can't save the mother and the child....you have to make a choice....it happens.....whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.
FACT: Sometimes the fetus has some horrible defect and the doctors KNOW it will only suffer and die if it is born. It is better to be aborted than to lay in an ICU going through horrible pain and suffering for hours or days. It is the COMPASSIONATE thing to do.
What makes YOU think that YOU should be the one making these decisions and not the mother and doctors involved?
Because it's the mother's choice, not some other dude's choice? Are you that dense?
You are in a hospital, and it's on fire. On one side of you is a little boy, on the other side is a freezer full of hundreds of frozen embryos. You can only save the boy or the freezer. What do you do?
This response makes no sense and doesn't really address what the OP was wanting to know.
I found out long ago that it's the mothers intent that determines if the baby is to be considered a living being worthy of Constitutional rights. If Scott Peterson kills his wife, and his wives intent is to keep the baby, then it's a double murder. However, if his wife would have had the baby killed by abortion a week before Scott killed her, it would be a single count of murder.
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