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Murder is murder. It's not like the guy was jay walking or something or crossed the border illegally or anything like that.
Yep. What's that got to do with anything? He committed murder. He's been found guilty. He's been sentenced to death. Obama has only requested that they delay the execution for six months. Not that they commute the sentence and set him free. Whether he's executed this month or six months from now, he'll be just as dead, won't he?
On the otherhand, if we show the rest of the world good faith as regards a treaty that protects Americans and the citizens of other nations who are also party to the treaty, then when Americans travel to those other nations, they can rely on that treaty and its protections. If we don't show the rest of the world good faith, we may not be able to rely on that treaty, a treaty we ratified in 1969.
That is what the goal is. Why would they be doing this? He wants to consult the Mexican Consulate. FOR WHAT?????????? If they aren't going to overturn the case and try it again, what exactly are they trying to accomplish here? It makes no sense at all unless they are going for a mistrial.
That is ridiculous. The goal is to show the rest of the world that we respect a treaty we ratified in 1969. The goal is that in demonstrating to the other nations that are party to this treaty that they CAN rely on the treaty, that they, in turn, will ensure that Americans in their countries can also rely on that treaty and its protections.
Just out of curiousity - is there a country where it's legal for a non-citizen to kill a citizen of said country? Which one? Oh - and could you post a legitimate link?
We aren't talking about crossing a street against a light. We're discussing murder. MURDER!
Yeppers. A murderer is sitting on death row. What exactly do you think Obama has asked for? His release? NO. Obama has asked that the state of Texas delay execution for six months.
Why would Obama ask for that? Because he wants other countries to continue to confer certain rights on Americans when they are taken into custody in other countries. Rights that are based on a treaty. A treaty that the United States is in violation of.
This scuzzbucket raped a girl, shoved a stick with a nail in it 12 inches into her body, then crushed her head with a 25-pound rock.
BTW, he has lived in the USA since the age of two. I'll bet this is the first time he ever considered himself a citizen of mexico...
This scuzzbucket raped a girl, shoved a stick with a nail in it 12 inches into her body, then crushed her head with a 25-pound rock.
BTW, he has lived in the USA since the age of two. I'll bet this is the first time he ever considered himself a citizen of mexico...
Yes. And what do you think about the treaty that we ratified in 1969 that affords American citizens as well as citizens of other countries party to that treaty certain protections? Do you think that Texas should ignore that treaty and possibly cause Americans to lose those protections?
Yes. And what do you think about the treaty that we ratified in 1969 that affords American citizens as well as citizens of other countries party to that treaty certain protections? Do you think that Texas should ignore that treaty and possibly cause Americans to lose those protections?
Has that happened to any American in the last 3 years ?
Because Bush tried to do the same thing and he lost back in 2008.
Yes. And what do you think about the treaty that we ratified in 1969 that affords American citizens as well as citizens of other countries party to that treaty certain protections? Do you think that Texas should ignore that treaty and possibly cause Americans to lose those protections?
Has that happened to any American in the last 3 years ?
Because Bush tried to do the same thing and he lost back in 2008.
The difference between Bush and Obama is that Obama has Congressional legislation in the pipeline, Bush didn't. Since some of the Supreme Court opinion was based on the lack of pending legislation, the situation is now substantively different.
As for whether it has happened to any American, how would we know? An American held incommunicado is by definition not communicating with the American consulate or other American authorities.
That is ridiculous. The goal is to show the rest of the world that we respect a treaty we ratified in 1969. The goal is that in demonstrating to the other nations that are party to this treaty that they CAN rely on the treaty, that they, in turn, will ensure that Americans in their countries can also rely on that treaty and its protections.
That's all BS. What would waiting 6 months do? Why wait? He still didn't get to consul his consulate, what difference would it make to wait? It would make none. If you don't see what they are trying to do here you are as naive as they come. Once this guy gets a chance to talk to his consulate they are going to file for a mistrial because the NEW legislation wasn't followed. You wait and see, it's the ONLY thing that makes sense. If it isn't that, then what are they actually trying to do? What good would talking to the consulate do now? It wouldn't even show good faith as you put it, he's convicted already, the damage has been done, according to you. There is no reversing that to show good faith unless there is a new trial right? Please explain, you aren't making any sense.
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