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Old 07-03-2011, 09:35 AM
 
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Pro-lifers, riddle me this:

You say abortion is murder. I disagree, but that's your opinion.

However, there's something that doesn't add up. If you think abortion is murder, why do you make an exception for rape?

If you think abortion is murder, wouldn't it be murder regardless of how the baby was conceived?

Again, I don't think abortion is murder. I'm just wondering what the logic is behind the people that say abortion is murder but make an exception for rape.
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Old 07-03-2011, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Southeast
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Probably for the same reason we consider self defense an exception to murder. It is still murder, however, it is considered justified.
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Old 07-03-2011, 11:26 AM
 
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Pro-lifers, riddle me this:

You say abortion is murder. I disagree, but that's your opinion.

However, there's something that doesn't add up. If you think abortion is murder, why do you make an exception for rape?

If you think abortion is murder, wouldn't it be murder regardless of how the baby was conceived?

Again, I don't think abortion is murder. I'm just wondering what the logic is behind the people that say abortion is murder but make an exception for rape.
This question has been answered before but not by anti-choicers.

They are hypocrites.

They SAY they are only concern is for the "baby" (nevermind telling them there is NO baby).


But , they turn around and say THEY would approve in cases of incest, rape or the life of the mother.




Which proves they don't care about the "baby" (afterall, abortion is abortion).....

they are ONLY concerned with controlling women, it's a power thing for those who have none....it's misogynist, they fear and hate women so are desperate to control and punish them.


They think: If a woman enjoyed the sex, she should be forced to have the baby.

If the woman didn't enjoy the sex then it's OK if she has an abortion.


Ya, no logic, no thought, no reasoning, just stupidity and jealousy of those who enjoy sex..
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Old 07-03-2011, 12:19 PM
 
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I have never heard anyone saying that, but some say it is acceptable only in cases where it would save the life of the mother. In that case it is one life or another. Who says it is acceptable only in case of rape but does not include this exception?
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Old 07-03-2011, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Pro-lifers, riddle me this:

You say abortion is murder. I disagree, but that's your opinion.

However, there's something that doesn't add up. If you think abortion is murder, why do you make an exception for rape?

If you think abortion is murder, wouldn't it be murder regardless of how the baby was conceived?

Again, I don't think abortion is murder. I'm just wondering what the logic is behind the people that say abortion is murder but make an exception for rape.
I'm vehemently pro-life and I am against ALL abortions. All of it is taking away a life. I do agree with you, though, in that I think it's a little hypocritical to say one is pro-life but then make exceptions for certain situations. I guess they are thinking with their emotions when they say that, as opposed to using common sense that says once a pregnancy occurs, a new life has begun, no matter *how* that life came into existence.
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Old 07-03-2011, 01:03 PM
 
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I have never heard anyone saying that, but some say it is acceptable only in cases where it would save the life of the mother. In that case it is one life or another. Who says it is acceptable only in case of rape but does not include this exception?
Who? Posters in CD. There's a dozen abortion threads, pick any one and read through it...the women haters are all in there.
ALTHOUGH they may back pedal furiously and say they're against all abortions once their blatant hypocrisy is pointed out .






"""some say it is acceptable only in cases where it would save the life of the mother. In that case it is one life or another""


Why would the abortion be any different in that scenario? Answer , it wouldn't. Rabid anti-choicers say there's NO choice , so the mother must die....can't have an abortion.
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Old 07-03-2011, 01:10 PM
 
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Probably for the same reason we consider self defense an exception to murder. It is still murder, however, it is considered justified.
but it that case you're killing the individual that's seriously threatening (e.g.: the rapist) or trying to kill you. It's a matter of immediate survival. I can't see how that relates to "murdering" (if one believes it is murder) an unborn, innocent baby that is not to blame for the rape.
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Old 07-03-2011, 01:18 PM
 
Location: California
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The entire issue isn't based on any facts, regardless of the studies or logical points handed out by anyone. It's purely emotional. If someone startes to cry when they think of something then nothing else matters. Which is why it shouldn't be a political issue at all...but is exactly why it has been turned into one.
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Old 07-03-2011, 01:28 PM
 
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Because rape is out of a person's control. So, you were forced to become pregnant. I can understand abortion being excusable for this reason. But if women are having one night stands without protection, then she'll surely eventually become pregnant. I don't think it's fair to the baby that it gets killed for their mother's and their father's irresponsibility. I also think that in some ways, legalized abortion have led to people being less responsible about sex and who they have sex with because if the woman "suddenly" or "unexpectedly" becomes pregnant, then she can just go to an abortion clinic and have the baby taken out. So, before abortions were legalized, people were more cautious about sex because of a possibility of becoming pregnant and if you became pregnant out of wedlock, you were severely pressured to get married.

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Old 07-03-2011, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Bayou City
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This isn't a necessarily pro-life or pro-choice position, but one usually espoused by those like myself who hold a more moderate stance on abortion. The problem with being on either extreme of the debate is that sooner or later you're going to have to make some sort of compromise with the other side in order to avoid the embarrassing contradiction inevitably brought about by unwavering adherence to your side.
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