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Old 07-05-2011, 10:44 PM
 
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"Educators at nearly four dozen Atlanta elementary and middle schools cheated on standardized tests by either helping students or changing the answers once exams were handed in, according to the results of a yearlong state investigation released Tuesday...The report said that 178 teachers and principals cheated,..."

"Problems have mounted, some experts say, as teachers and school administrators -- particularly those in low-income districts -- bow to the pressure of the federal No Child Left Behind requirements and see cheating as the only way to avoid sanctions."

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Old 07-06-2011, 09:13 AM
 
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Guess the beat goes on...and on...and on...

"A number of other urban school districts and states have been caught up in cheating scandals in the last several years, including Baltimore and Houston, and Texas, Michigan and Florida."

Read more: Probe Finds Widespread Cheating in Atlanta Schools - FoxNews.com

Appears that those that NCLB was intended to help the most have been involved in trying to cheat their way around it. Poor kids. Everybody suffers with too much Central Planning and attempts at governmental control. Time to put an end to the Federal Dept. of Education.
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Old 07-06-2011, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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NCLB is the proverbial carrot and the stick.

DO GOOD or we hold back your money. The quest for AYP and passing scores is all that matters, not a true education.
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Old 07-06-2011, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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They committed felonies and should all be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Sacrificing children's education for one's personal economic gain is reprehensable. It is impossible to go back and make up the lost years to the children who were denied the remedial help they should have received but it is not too late to seek justice in those who denied it to them.
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Old 07-06-2011, 01:34 PM
 
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Show me the money!

The cheating administrators, teachers and students are the symptom of a much larger disease, i.e. the Dept. of Education.

reason #1,897,395,201 to eliminate it.
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Old 07-06-2011, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Harrison, OH
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Those "teachers" and administrators should be ashamed.
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Old 07-06-2011, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Those "teachers" and administrators should be ashamed.
Yes, they should be. And everyone else should be ashamed that a program like No Child Left Behind exists. Rewarding 'students' by promoting them for having accomplished nothing isn't the best of all possible lessons to instill.
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Old 07-06-2011, 02:42 PM
 
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"Educators at nearly four dozen Atlanta elementary and middle schools cheated on standardized tests by either helping students or changing the answers once exams were handed in, according to the results of a yearlong state investigation released Tuesday...The report said that 178 teachers and principals cheated,..."

"Problems have mounted, some experts say, as teachers and school administrators -- particularly those in low-income districts -- bow to the pressure of the federal No Child Left Behind requirements and see cheating as the only way to avoid sanctions."

Read more:
Probe Finds Widespread Cheating in Atlanta Schools - FoxNews.com
While I don't condone the cheating, no matter what the reason might be, it's no surprise that this happened.

Anytime the govt becomes the middle man, they cause otherwise honest people to do things they might not otherwise do. Sad that these teachers have to cheat to get their own money back.

Or, they could have taught the material.
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Old 07-06-2011, 02:57 PM
 
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NCLB standards are quite easy to attain if teachers do their job. If they have to cheat to get it done then close up that crappy school or fire em all and bring in new teachers. Oops their union good luck.
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Old 07-06-2011, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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NCLB standards are quite easy to attain if teachers do their job. If they have to cheat to get it done then close up that crappy school or fire em all and bring in new teachers. Oops their union good luck.
No they are not. You've got kids pushed from grade to grade without having attained their skills and you end up with functionally illiterate school children that couldn't even learn if they were left back.

By 16 an 8th grader is automatically sent to high school regardless of if he passes. Now he goes into Algebra and can't even do his times table.

NCLB also has set the goal for 100% proficiency by 2014. Perfection in school tests. No one fails..got that..no one. The only way to pass that bar is to bury it underground and carry those kids across it.

NCLB never raised the bar...it ended up lowering is so that more kids passed, so that "No Child was Left Behind.".

A decade later and we have a sad, broken education system that pushes them through.
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