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Old 07-13-2011, 12:18 PM
 
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The human and economic costs of these wars will continue for decades, some costs not peaking until mid-century. Many of the wars’ costs are invisible to Americans, buried in a variety of budgets, and so have not been counted or assessed. For example, while most people think the Pentagon war appropriations are equivalent to the wars’ budgetary costs, the true numbers are twice that, and the full economic cost of the wars much larger yet.

Conservatively estimated, the war bills already paid and obligated to be paid are $3.2 trillion in constant dollars. A more reasonable estimate puts the number at nearly $4 trillion.

The President of the United States has told the American people and the rest of the world that even as the U.S. withdraws some troops from Afghanistan and continues to withdraw from Iraq, the wars will continue for some years. The debate over why each war was begun and whether either or both should have been fought continues.

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Old 07-13-2011, 12:21 PM
 
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Or we could eliminate Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid and let people take care of themselves. The total cost of all federal assistance programs accounts for nearly half of the federal budget.

Just another option.
 
Old 07-13-2011, 01:07 PM
 
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Or we could eliminate Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid and let people take care of themselves. The total cost of all federal assistance programs accounts for nearly half of the federal budget.

Just another option.
Just as soon as they give back what they took plus the interest payments.
If a politician were to say what you did their career in politcs would end before they stopped talking.
Casper
 
Old 07-13-2011, 01:23 PM
 
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Or we could eliminate Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid and let people take care of themselves. The total cost of all federal assistance programs accounts for nearly half of the federal budget.

Just another option.
Why would US citizens want their hard earned dollars going to other countries whether it be in foreign aid, rebuilding, police training, building roads and schools ..........while folks at home are treated like ****

If we don't want US citizens to have social security and medicare, stop taking S.S. and Medicare payroll tax out of everyone's pay.

Get rid of welfare and medicaid too. Maybe if this country
starts looking more like a third world country, our
government will start to realize we can't afford
wars of choice abroad, and foreign aid to others.

In fact, it can start with getting rid of the IRS
altogether. Let the government fend for itself,
while we at it

Somalia - here we come
 
Old 07-13-2011, 01:26 PM
 
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Why would US citizens want their hard earned dollars going to other countries whether it be in foreign aid, rebuilding, police training, building roads and schools ..........while folks at home are treated like ****

If we don't want US citizens to have social security and medicare, stop taking S.S. and Medicare payroll tax out of everyone's pay.

Get rid of welfare and medicaid too. Maybe if this country
starts looking more like a third world country, our
government will start to realize we can't afford
wars of choice abroad, and foreign aid to others.

In fact, it can start with getting rid of the IRS
altogether. Let the government fend for itself,
while we at it

Somalia - here we come
Obviously we need the IRS (now the Fed...that is a different story)...but only for those agencies specified in the constitution. I am for pulling out of all foreign holdings that do not pose an immediate threat to the security of USA's physical borders. I am also for people *actually* taking care of themselves. If you don't save for retirement, then too bad. SS should not exist to bail you out.

As long as the government keeps acting like our mother, we as citizens will never learn to stand on our own two feet.
 
Old 07-13-2011, 01:28 PM
 
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Or we could eliminate Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid and let people take care of themselves. The total cost of all federal assistance programs accounts for nearly half of the federal budget.

Just another option.
And an admirable one at that.
 
Old 07-13-2011, 01:30 PM
 
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Just as soon as they give back what they took plus the interest payments.
If a politician were to say what you did their career in politcs would end before they stopped talking.
Casper
Perhaps they could be phased out.
 
Old 07-13-2011, 01:30 PM
 
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The human and economic costs of these wars will continue for decades, some costs not peaking until mid-century. Many of the wars’ costs are invisible to Americans, buried in a variety of budgets, and so have not been counted or assessed. For example, while most people think the Pentagon war appropriations are equivalent to the wars’ budgetary costs, the true numbers are twice that, and the full economic cost of the wars much larger yet.

Conservatively estimated, the war bills already paid and obligated to be paid are $3.2 trillion in constant dollars. A more reasonable estimate puts the number at nearly $4 trillion.

The President of the United States has told the American people and the rest of the world that even as the U.S. withdraws some troops from Afghanistan and continues to withdraw from Iraq, the wars will continue for some years. The debate over why each war was begun and whether either or both should have been fought continues.

Home | Costs of War
Not to mention how many soldiers are coming home
maimed, and who will require life time medical
care and disability payments for life.

Not to sound morbid, but Vietnam had a high death
count and a much lower disability count.
These new wars of choice have a lower death
count, but a higher disabled count, simply because
of the advancement of medicine in general. We don't
even know the long term monetary burden this will
be in 30/40 years when these vets are much older.

Military health care costs eating a hole in Pentagon budget - Feb. 28, 2011
 
Old 07-13-2011, 01:34 PM
 
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Or we could eliminate Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid and let people take care of themselves. The total cost of all federal assistance programs accounts for nearly half of the federal budget.

Just another option.
So you'd rather continue the wars and throw the poor and elderly under the bus. Sounds like a great way to ruin the lives of the maximum amount of people.
 
Old 07-13-2011, 01:41 PM
 
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The wall-street bankers stole 13 trillion from the american people...almost the amount of debt...Why were they bailed out??and why don't we hear about this travesty in the news???And why, oh why would anyone blame this debt on the most needy and least able to fight back...our elders, our disabled, and our veterans.
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