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View Poll Results: Is La Raza a racist hate organization?
Yes 128 73.56%
No 46 26.44%
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Old 07-15-2011, 08:21 AM
 
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La Raza is NOT a racist hate group. I had the chance to apply for one of their jobs here in Washington, DC and after careful research have come to the conclusion that they are not what many people think they are.

I think what many are confused with is the term "la raza". Yes, their are many aggressive, militant types that have hijacked the word "la raza". They themselves have NOTHING to do with the actual orgnization. The people you see calling for the annexation of the American Southwest 99% of them do not belong to NCLR in any capacity. In the case of NCLR, "la raza" is more in tune with "the people" not "the race" which is what many to take as an literal translation.

What NLCR does is lobby to have better amenties in the US for Hispanics. This can come in many forms,education,heatlh etc... NCLR does not agree in having the US open its borders to any and all who want to enter. They believe a country has a right to protect it's borders, including the US.

I do not see how NCLR is any different NAACP, HRC, MADD,heck even AARP. I doubt anyone would call AARP a radical group.They are just a group of people fighting for their pice of the American pie. Like we ALL are....
Any race or ethnic supremacy group can easily become a hate group. Once you have decided that your race is The Race, it goes downhill from there. The Race can all turn into The Master Race all too quickly.

Exactly why should someone's race and often their illegal status give them a bigger slice of the American pie than other races or ethnicities?

The problem with The Race (NCLR) is that is not working for all people. Certainly they are not working for the American people.

La Raza simply does not mean All the People, certainly does not mean All the American People, it refers to a certain segment of people based on ethnicity or what some think is race. Plain and simple, that is the truth.
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Old 07-15-2011, 08:23 AM
 
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Any race or ethnic supremacy group can easily become a hate group. Once you have decided that your race is The Race, it goes downhill from there. The Race can all turn into The Master Race all too quickly.

Exactly why should someone's race and often their illegal status give them a bigger slice of the American pie than other races or ethnicities?

The problem with The Race (NCLR) is that is not working for all people. Certainly they are not working for the American people.

La Raza simply does not mean All the People, certainly does not mean All the American People, it refers to a certain segment of people based on ethnicity or what some think is race. Plain and simple, that is the truth.
that doesn't address his point.

how is la raza different from the NAACP, or the AARP?
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Old 07-15-2011, 08:31 AM
 
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Any race or ethnic supremacy group can easily become a hate group. Once you have decided that your race is The Race, it goes downhill from there. The Race can all turn into The Master Race all too quickly.

Exactly why should someone's race and often their illegal status give them a bigger slice of the American pie than other races or ethnicities?

The problem with The Race (NCLR) is that is not working for all people. Certainly they are not working for the American people.

La Raza simply does not mean All the People, certainly does not mean All the American People, it refers to a certain segment of people based on ethnicity or what some think is race. Plain and simple, that is the truth.
That is because you assuming that all Latinos are illegals. And their is nothing wrong with fighting (legally) for your piece of the pie.
Do you consider Jewish, Italian, Polish, Gay and women's rights group as hate groups? Sure they may all have their bad apples and crazies, but the actual orgs. that lobby and address their issues try to do it in the most legal and sane way possible.

Again NCLR and the catchphrase "La Raza" are two very different things.
The minute you see an official statement by NCLR saying they want all illegals to be allowed into the US, let me know. I will apologise to you personally....
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Old 07-15-2011, 08:36 AM
 
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I know exactly who this marxist group is that is hell bent on turning this country into a nanny welfare socialist paradise.

If Betty White is all you got then your argument and comparison has no merit. Just like a liberal to throw a stupid movie actor out as a credible source.
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Old 07-15-2011, 08:37 AM
 
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that doesn't address his point.

how is la raza different from the NAACP, or the AARP?
Very different. The AARP for one is not about race at all.

The NAACP was formed when a certain group of Americans suffered Jim Crow laws and institutionalized racism.

La Raza is not about assimilated Americans with Spanish last names who often don't even speak Spanish and whose culture is American. It's mainly about the "rights" of people from one portion of the world to come here illegally and then demand their rights.

Keep in mind even the term "hispanic" as a race is quite recent, a long time ago the Spanish-Americans of the SW simply checked off "white" if they had to check off anything.
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Old 07-15-2011, 08:40 AM
 
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I know exactly who this marxist group is that is hell bent on turning this country into a nanny welfare socialist paradise.

If Betty White is all you got then your argument and comparison has no merit. Just like a liberal to throw a stupid movie actor out as a credible source.

"I know exactly who this marxist group is that is hell bent on turning this country into a nanny welfare socialist paradise."

You have got to be kidding. Please, tell me your joking.
Do you know how paranoid and crazy you sound?

And I chose Betty White bc she is an official spokesman for AARP.
What's wrong with that?
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Old 07-15-2011, 08:42 AM
 
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Very different. The AARP for one is not about race at all.

The NAACP was formed when a certain group of Americans suffered Jim Crow laws and institutionalized racism.

La Raza is not about assimilated Americans with Spanish last names who often don't even speak Spanish and whose culture is American. It's mainly about the "rights" of people from one portion of the world to come here illegally and then demand their rights.

Keep in mind even the term "hispanic" as a race is quite recent, a long time ago the Spanish-Americans of the SW simply checked off "white" if they had to check off anything.
But you have to be within a certain group to be part of AARP. Like NAACP. And yes, even NCLR.

And NCLR does fight against racism. Their purpose is not to make America open it's borders.Despite what many may think. Once again, if people would bother to read up on NCLR they would know the difference.
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Old 07-15-2011, 08:44 AM
 
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But you have to be within a certain group to be part of AARP. Like NAACP. And yes, even NCLR.

And NCLR does fight against racism. Their purpose is not to make America open it's borders.Despite what many may think. Once again, if people would bother to read up on NCLR they would know the difference.
You don't fight racism by referring to your race group as The Race.
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Old 07-15-2011, 08:45 AM
 
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You don't fight racism by referring to your race group as The Race.
I guess " Kill White People" was already taken.

What's the point of arguing with you. You ignore eveything I ask anyways....
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Old 07-15-2011, 08:48 AM
 
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I guess " Kill White People" was already taken.

What's the point of arguing with you. You ignore eveything I ask anyways....
And you don't? I asked how some group that sees itself as some separate race can fight racism by referring to itself as The Race and you didn't answer that.

And yes La Raza is all about open borders - but not for all races. You don't see them out protesting with their own country's flags when it's Haitians rounded up in Miami and sent back to Haiti. They aren't working for unlimited immigration of Europeans or Asians or Africans, only from their own raza nations.
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