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Old 07-30-2011, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Read more polls. Everyone is equally as unpopular right now. In that same article, it points out that Boener and Reid are seen less favorably than Obama in regards to the economic situation.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Conservatives, what makes you think Obama will lose in 2012 when his opponents are even less popular?

Bohner and Reid are not elected by the states so a national poll means next to nothing.


"Conservatives, what makes you think Obama will lose in 2012 when his opponents are even less popular?"

At 40% approval and 52% disapproval, he is simply unelectable. No sitting president has won an additional term with a Gallup job approval rating below 52%. When disapproval outweighs approval by that much, voters will roll the dice on a new candidate rather than accept what they have already rejected.


Bush Sr. was at 38% when he lost in a three-way to Clinton. Carter was at 37% when he lost in a landslide to Reagan. Ford was at 48% when Carter won. Had he ran, LBJ would have lost to Nixon with a 43% approval rating. Truman was eligible for a third term but lost an early primary contest, and with his approval rating below 30%, decided to bow out gracefully.


Consider this also. No president has won an additional term with unemployment above 7.2%, an ongoing war more than eight years old, a misery index above 11.25% or the inflation adjusted price of gasoline over $2.50 per gallon since FDR.


Reagan won with unemployment at 7.2% and a misery index of 11.25%, but the economy was otherwise booming with GDP over 8%, six million private sector jobs created, inflation down 10 points and the dollar at its all time record high in May 1984.

Viet Nam was ongoing in 1972 and more than eight years old, but Nixon got credit for the Guam Doctrine and Americans concluded he would be best able to keep us out of war.

You can run against unpopular wars and have great success as these conflicts drag on, but you lose that edge if you start new wars. Truman paid a heavy political price for Korea, as did LBJ for Viet Nam.


We'll have to see if Obama can sell us on continued involvement in Afghanistan and Libya.


To win another term with any of these problems in play would be historic.

To hope to win another term with all of them in place is extremely unrealistic.
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Old 07-30-2011, 11:56 PM
 
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Boehner and Reid are not running for POTUS. Obama is and he is carry the heavy baggage of a failed first term. An epic fail at that!


Now John Conyers (D) is voicing his distaste for this President too.
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Old 07-31-2011, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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12GO, you have just demonstrated why you Tea Partiers aren't taken seriously. You agree with someone that calls Obama a Kenyan?

Sorry, but anyone who believes this comes across as a fool to average Americans.

Anyone that comes across as not wanting to see the truth about obama, his illogical plans for the USA, his intent to destroy us, all following the marxist Alinski, comes across as a person with their head in the sand and is not taken seriously by anyone. Prove he was born in Hawaii and not the fake birth cert he showed off.
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Old 08-05-2011, 07:49 PM
 
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Default Obama tied his Disapproval record today...

And the Approval rating is 1 point above his low point. 41% approve, 52% disapprove.

Memo to the President: this is a clue! Go ahead and get it. Though you are a clue virgin, it is time to break the ice, so to speak.

Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval
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Old 01-24-2012, 01:23 PM
 
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Default Update

While Democrats like Carville proclaim the Republicans have a "mess" on their hands, and the primary race looks to be stolen by the grinch, and there is much wailing and gnashing of teeth....Obama can't get his approval rating above his disapproval rating.

In fact, he's only had two days since last August when Approval was higher than Disapproval, per the Gallup daily tracking poll:

Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval

Meanwhile, tonight, in the State of the Union speech, the president faces a choice between pleasing his base or further alienating the 56% who do not approve of his leadership.

Interesting.
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