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Old 07-31-2011, 01:57 PM
 
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What do agnostic people advocate?
That you mind your damn business and not try to impose your religious beliefs on other people.
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Old 07-31-2011, 02:03 PM
 
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perhaps the decline in population has more to do with people planning their lives and only having children they can afford. always a good idea
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Old 07-31-2011, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Save the crap. You don't think we have some sort of vernacular that describes the Eastern Bloc populace? Some of the biggest idiots I know hail from Romania...Poland.....Hungary...Yugoslavia. You think you have some sort of lock on intelligence?

Yeah right. "Bloc Head" fits, trust me. I've worked with these fools for years all over this planet. And they're all the same, no matter where I go.
They make good waiters and waitresses though. God Destin is full of them.
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Old 07-31-2011, 02:06 PM
 
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So you agree that it is American military power that protects Europe, as well as other places like Canada and some East Asian countries like Japan and South Korea.
Ehm - I don't. US bases in Europe are there for the US' convenience, not to stop the 3rd Shock Army from rolling through the Fulda Gap. Current military bases are much more tail than teeth.

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Western Europe today would be defenseless if faced with a massive Russian invasion from the east.
Please. Russia's GDP can't even match that of Germany, let alone the combined GDP of European NATO members. Russia can't muster the forces for a "massive invasion". Hell, look at the c*ck-up they managed in Georgia - numbers won out in the end, but their military did not have it together at all.

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They are being silently invaded by Muslims and other illegal immigrants from the Middle East, Africa, and the Balkans.
If you say so.

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I wonder how Europe remains competitive economically with all that vacation time adn short work weeks, and especially all those anti-business and anti-capitalist laws.
Perhaps those "anti-business and anti-capitalist laws" turned out to not be as "anti" as the propaganda has led you to believe?

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As a country, however, I don't know how Britain or Germany are able to compete with the US and especially with workaholic places like Japan and China.
Having worked in the US and Germany both, I've noticed that the employer-employee dynamic is very different, with a highly antagonistic attitude in the US and a much heavier emphasis on negotiation in Germany.
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Old 07-31-2011, 02:11 PM
 
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There's a difference between China and the countries of Europe. China historically has been an Atheist country. But for the past 10 years of so, they have let Christian missionaries back into the country and now boasts an 80+ million Christian population and still growing. China is becoming more religious as time goes on while Europe has been anti-religious. And now China is one step away from becoming the world power. The U.S. is following in the Europe's steps and becoming anti-religious and liberal as time goes on and we're an economical mess just like they are. We were propelled to world power status in the 1950s when most of this country was extremely religious. Now look at us. It all correlates. And if you don't believe me, ask the Chinese yourself.

Christianity the reason for West's success, say the Chinese
I fail to see how an economic status of a country has some kind of correlation with religion.
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Old 07-31-2011, 02:12 PM
 
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I never understood the cause of the decline of religion in Europe.
People figured out that you can behave decently towards one another without being threatened with eternal damnation. Incidentally, the quoted article was written by an ignorant fool.

Gay marriage leading to population decline? That's weapons-grade stupid.
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Old 07-31-2011, 02:15 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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USATODAY.com - Is God dead in Europe?

This is a good and shocking article in USA Today about the decline of religion in Europe and its implications for society as a whole. It also mentions fears that this is also part of the liberals' vision for America. I'm especially shocked about Italy which now has a population growth below replacement level despite the stereotypical large Italian family, same with Spain. In America, our birthrate is really only sustained by illegal immigrants and Section 8 or welfare type people who are having more kids to collect more benefits.

I never understood the cause of the decline of religion in Europe. They mention Poland and the Czech Republic and that makes SOME sense since they were part of the communist bloc in the Cold War where religion was banned, same with the eastern part of Germany. HOwever the decline in Western European coutnries really is inexplicable aside from radical liberal policies and education. Even though Islam seems to be thriving in Britain and France.


Religion requires something of it's peoples.........Hope, faith. These are things seemingly not in abundance with the majority of europeans I've encountered.
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Old 07-31-2011, 02:16 PM
 
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I fail to see how an economic status of a country has some kind of correlation with religion.
Read the article and the Bible and you'll find out.
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Old 07-31-2011, 02:19 PM
 
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I fail to see how an economic status of a country has some kind of correlation with religion.
Well, the Saudis have been doing quite well for themselves, but I doubt that's a point that the author of the linked article would want you to dwell upon.
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Old 07-31-2011, 02:22 PM
 
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People figured out that you can behave decently towards one another without being threatened with eternal damnation. Incidentally, the quoted article was written by an ignorant fool.

Gay marriage leading to population decline? That's weapons-grade stupid.
No, it's intelligence. Homosexuality is not natural. If it was, then people who practice it would be able to reproduce. If homosexuality, casual sex, abortion, and all other forms of immorality are rampant and prevalent in a culture or society, then you have a massive population decline. That's a scientific fact. It's of your own stupidity if you deny it. If you don't have a God you answer to, then most of the time you look to science. And if science is telling you and confirming the same thing and you won't listen, your simply deluded and ignorant.
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