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Old 08-22-2011, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Oh... I see... Her boss told his entire office to run for no reason... and coincidentally... they run downstairs to find that the entire lobby was completely detroyed... BEFORE... the plane hit the building...


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
No, her boss told her to run, because the building was hit by a plane. The lobby was damaged after the plane hit, as described by witnesses who were in the lobby.

There are exactly zero people who describe the sequence of events you describe (you have assume facts not known, in order to make this woman's comments conform to your version of events) . Every soul who escaped the building that day describe the sequence of events that I have described. The building was hit by a plane, they ran through a damaged lobby.
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:55 PM
 
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Ok, here is what you clearly don't get. Seal Team 6 is made up of about 300 members. Of those 300 members, 24 took part in the Bin Laden operation.

Is the NY Times not good enough for you? Here it is again.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/05/wo...eals.html?_r=1

"It is classified, but Team 6, is thought to have doubled To nearly 300 since then."
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One current and one former U.S. official said that the dead included 25 Navy SEALs from SEAL Team Six, the unit that carried out the raid in Pakistan in May that killed bin Laden.
NATO confirmed the overnight crash took place and that there "was enemy activity in the area." But it said it was still investigating the cause and conducting a recovery operation at the site. It did not release details or casualty figures.

"We are in the process of accessing the facts," said U.S. Air Force Capt. Justin Brockhoff, a NATO spokesman.

Read more: Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan Reportedly Kills Members Of SEAL Team 6 | FoxNews.com


So now we will never get the whole story of SEAL Team 6 that took down Osama Bin Laden.

So... based on your NY Times link... SEAL Team 6... about 2 dozen... is now dead...


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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So... based on your NY Times link... SEAL Team 6... about 2 dozen... is now dead...


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
The NY Times say Seal team 6 is about 300 people. Do you deny this?
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:03 PM
 
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No, her boss told her to run, because the building was hit by a plane. The lobby was damaged after the plane hit, as described by witnesses who were in the lobby.

There are exactly zero people who describe the sequence of events you describe (you have assume facts not known, in order to make this woman's comments conform to your version of events) . Every soul who escaped the building that day describe the sequence of events that I have described. The building was hit by a plane, they ran through a damaged lobby.
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Explosions before planes hit WTC 911 9/11 - YouTube


ABC-TV news reporter: Did you see other people?...

2nd woman: People... There was a woman there with her face blown off...
And as we were coming out... We passed the lobby... there was no lobby... So I believe the bomb hit the lobby first... and a couple of seconds and the first plane hit...

Once again... I see your neolithic level shill-ing denial is running rampant... The woman ran through the completely destroyed lobby... BEFORE... the plane hit the building...


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Once again... I see your neolithic level shill-ing denial is running rampant... The woman ran through the completely destroyed lobby... BEFORE... the plane hit the building...


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
Lol, Neolithic? You're at step one! We're making progress!

Ok, we established that she was above the lobby level when the lobby was damage. Check.

Ok, we established she ran down the stairs. Check.

Ok, we established that she ran through a damaged lobby. Check.

Ok, we do not know what caused her to run down the stairs.

We know every other person who survived that day:

Ran down the stairs (except eyewitnesses in the lobby, all who said the lobby was damaged after the plane hit.)

All ran through a damaged lobby.

All ran down the stairs because a plane hit the building.

Since we don't know why she ran down the stairs, does it make sense to assume her motivation was different than every other person that day?
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:12 PM
 
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The NY Times say Seal team 6 is about 300 people. Do you deny this?

Yes... You are denied... because how many members there are now is irrelevant... The 2 dozen men of SEAL Team 6 who landed inside Osama Bin Laden's compound are now dead...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/05/wo...ewanted=1&_r=2

There were 79 people on the assault team that killed Osama bin Laden, but in the end, the success of the mission turned on some two dozen men who landed inside the Qaeda leader’s compound, made their way to his bedroom and shot him at close range —


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Yes... You are denied... because how many members there are now is irrelevant... The 2 dozen men of SEAL Team 6 who landed inside Osama Bin Laden's compound are now dead...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/05/wo...ewanted=1&_r=2

There were 79 people on the assault team that killed Osama bin Laden, but in the end, the success of the mission turned on some two dozen men who landed inside the Qaeda leader’s compound, made their way to his bedroom and shot him at close range —


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
Ok, see this is how people know conspiracy theorists are nuts.

We all know 3 things, there are about 300 Seal 6 members, 24 were part of the Bin Laden Laden operation, and 25 members of Seal Team 6 were killed in Afghanistan. But only you know, that 24 of the 25 Seal Team 6 members killed in Afghanistan were the same 24 Seal Team 6 members that were involved in the Bin Laden operation.
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:19 PM
 
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Lol, Neolithic? You're at step one! We're making progress!

Ran down the stairs (except eyewitnesses in the lobby, all who said the lobby was damaged after the plane hit.)

All ran through a damaged lobby.

All ran down the stairs because a plane hit the building.

Since we don't know why she ran down the stairs, does it make sense to assume her motivation was different than every other person that day?

Oh... of course not... She reported that she ran through the completely destroyed lobby... then the plane hit the building... AFTERWARDS... So... you shall surmise that her boss told her to run out of the building because of the "bomb" in the lobby...


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Oh... of course not... She reported that she ran through the completely destroyed lobby... then the plane hit the building... AFTERWARDS... So... you shall surmise that her boss told her to run out of the building because of the "bomb" in the lobby...


"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer

Again, as with the Seal Teaneck 6 folks, it is irrelevant what we know, you simply will fill in what we don't know with your own conclusions and present them as fact.

There is simply no evidence you can present that she said she ran through a damaged lobby, before the plane hit. It simply doesn't exist.
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:27 PM
 
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Ok, see this is how people know conspiracy theorists are nuts.

We all know 3 things, there are about 300 Seal 6 members, 24 were part of the Bin Laden Laden operation, and 25 members of Seal Team 6 were killed in Afghanistan. But only you know, that 24 of the 25 Seal Team 6 members killed in Afghanistan were the same 24 Seal Team 6 members that were involved in the Bin Laden operation.

It's not only me... also the government but... Yes...


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One current and one former U.S. official said that the dead included 25 Navy SEALs from SEAL Team Six, the unit that carried out the raid in Pakistan in May that killed bin Laden.
NATO confirmed the overnight crash took place and that there "was enemy activity in the area." But it said it was still investigating the cause and conducting a recovery operation at the site. It did not release details or casualty figures.

"We are in the process of accessing the facts," said U.S. Air Force Capt. Justin Brockhoff, a NATO spokesman.

Read more: Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan Reportedly Kills Members Of SEAL Team 6 | FoxNews.com


So now we will never get the whole story of SEAL Team 6 that took down Osama Bin Laden.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
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