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Looks like Pakistan wants more money to go their way. Greedy little children.
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the available intelligence strongly suggests the ISI has been egging on elements of the Haqqani network to launch attacks at American targets in the region.
Well, we must pay our dues for stupidity at some point in time. Right now, this would be the dues for our "personal" involvement in designing Pakistan's government system since the early 1970s.
wait they let Osama hide there for 5-6 years and they still demand money how about a massive India and NATO mission to take their nuclear weapons and dispose of them so they do not fall inot the worng hands
wait they let Osama hide there for 5-6 years and they still demand money how about a massive India and NATO mission to take their nuclear weapons and dispose of them so they do not fall inot the worng hands
As I said earlier, the unconditional support to Pakistan through the decades is what we will be paying for, now and well into the future. Having studied the politics and US intervention in the region since the debacle of a decision made by Nixon administration in 1971 (led to an unpublicized defeat and birth of Bangladesh). I find it pathetic for Nixon administration to have condoned oppression of East Pakistanis (now Bangladesh) and permanent damage to a developing democratic system (and, consequently a rise of fundamentalism and military power leading to many dictatorships, including as recently as Musharraf).
Instead of rebuking Pakistan to stop the massacre, and for invading India (as India was busy handling a massive overflow of refugees from East Pakistan), the plan between Nixon and Kissinger was to get China involved against India as well. This was the beginning of end for any chance of political stability in Pakistan.
Similar mistakes were made in 1980s, in Afghanistan and in Iraq. We seem to never learn. This is one area I greatly appreciate the voice from likes of Ron Paul although his ideas for solution aren't practical and realistic but they will help in the long term, if we don't mess it up again.
As I said earlier, the unconditional support to Pakistan through the decades is what we will be paying for, now and well into the future. Having studied the politics and US intervention in the region since the debacle of a decision made by Nixon administration in 1971 (led to an unpublicized defeat and birth of Bangladesh). I find it pathetic for Nixon administration to have condoned oppression of East Pakistanis (now Bangladesh) and permanent damage to a developing democratic system (and, consequently a rise of fundamentalism and military power leading to many dictatorships, including as recently as Musharraf).
Instead of rebuking Pakistan to stop the massacre, and for invading India (as India was busy handling a massive overflow of refugees from East Pakistan), the plan between Nixon and Kissinger was to get China involved against India as well. This was the beginning of end for any chance of political stability in Pakistan.
Similar mistakes were made in 1980s, in Afghanistan and in Iraq. We seem to never learn. This is one area I greatly appreciate the voice from likes of Ron Paul although his ideas for solution aren't practical and realistic but they will help in the long term, if we don't mess it up again.
well if india and china go at it then that is a massive war and the U.S., NATO and Russia will have to work together to prevent a nuclear war.
well if india and china go at it then that is a massive war and the U.S., NATO and Russia will have to work together to prevent a nuclear war.
You are kidding, right? IF China and India go at it, all the huffery-puffery of NATO, United Nations and the U.S. combined will not be enough to stop one of them from pushing the big red button.
Keeping our noses out the affairs of other countries in the context of shaping their policy should have been the watchword of the 50's onward. Way too late now to undo all the crap that's been done.
well if india and china go at it then that is a massive war and the U.S., NATO and Russia will have to work together to prevent a nuclear war.
Well, China did not take Nixon's advise at the time. And it likely won't today even with disagreements with India (and having been at war with India just a few years before the Pakistan debacle, perhaps a reason Nixon thought they might bite... just as they actually did in South East Asia following the Vietnam war not too long after.
Today, there is a greater chance of a coalition between India, China and Russia if the USA/Canada were to flex their military muscle. In fact, I almost saw that happen sometime in 2008 (around the Georgian conflict). Although, I also believe that China will try to use Pakistan for geopolitical influence in the region, if not for just resources as it does on the other side of India (Myanmar). And that, without pushing for military power, just tactical. It is also going to offer an additional fodder to Pakistan, to be more rogue towards the USA (and India) than ever before.
That is one of the problems we're dealing with in Pakistan today and it makes for a difficult decision to pull out of the region completely, which really is an issue forty years in the making. An understanding of this situation is why candidate Obama impressed me in one of the Presidential debates on foreign policy, whereas the popular belief favored the "old well-tried method" from the "experienced" guy in McCain.
Also worth mentioning is that a collusion between ISI and the Mujaheedins really took shape in the 1980s. Politically, Pakistan was an ally and a close friend, the Taliban/Mujaheedins were, as Reagan had once put it "working in the spirit of the founding fathers", and India was a socialist country, a "Soviet Stooge" (choice words by Henry Kissinger in the 1970s). The Mujaheedins were active in Kashmir, with full support of our governments, and Kashmir/Hindukush region is actually where I expected Osama Bin Laden to be hiding, covered for by ISI (but not by Pakistani government).
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