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Old 08-28-2011, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I particularly like the section where the guy from Kentucky will simply shrug rather than take that long drive to Louisiana just to have the "opportunity" to sell generators at the same cost as he would at home.

Almost Everything We're Taught Is Wrong - Reason Magazine
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Old 08-28-2011, 08:21 AM
 
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I particularly like the section where the guy from Kentucky will simply shrug rather than take that long drive to Louisiana just to have the "opportunity" to sell generators at the same cost as he would at home.

Almost Everything We're Taught Is Wrong - Reason Magazine
Some interesting points are made, and I can't say I can argue against them, they have a reasonable position.
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Old 08-28-2011, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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I like John Stossel and he makes some good points. Although kidneys ARE sold in India, comparing that to selling sperm, hair and eggs--of which we have an unlimited supply, easily harvested--is not really a good comparison. Removing a kidney is a major, invasive surgery and potentially dangerous.

It might be interesting to point out that much of which we are, today, not accepting of e.g. human or animal sacrifice, "religious" prostitution (both female and male), child prostitution, child marriage, slavery, paying for penance, etc. was the norm in other times and other cultures.
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Old 08-28-2011, 09:40 AM
 
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John's premise is correct. As usual he trots out extreme examples to high light his talking points. At the end of the article he even admits to gilding the lily to prove his point.
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:17 AM
 
Location: The Brightest City On Earth
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I particularly like the section where the guy from Kentucky will simply shrug rather than take that long drive to Louisiana just to have the "opportunity" to sell generators at the same cost as he would at home.

Almost Everything We're Taught Is Wrong - Reason Magazine
I agree with everything on there except the child labor issue. It does not matter to me whether or not the children THINK they are better off working in a sweatshop. They belong in school. Not to mention it undermines the job markets in other nations that rightfully ban the practice. And no western democracy should allow products from such nations to be imported into the country.
On the rest of it, I am in full 100% agreement. The government should stay out of private markets. Back when I was a teen, concert tickets were only sold at the venue ticket windows and certain outlet stores. When big acts were announced such as The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney and Three Dog Night, certain people would go camp out all night and buy the maximum allowed (usually 10) and they would resell them for their TRUE value which was usually $20 as opposed to the $5 they bought them for. I honestly do not know why TicketMaster does not go to an "auction" system to sell tickets and allow the private market to decide what they are worth. For example, a front row seat for Lady Gaga might go for $400 while the seat in the ZZ32 row might go to $40. Then they would not have "scalpers".
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:19 AM
 
Location: The Brightest City On Earth
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I like John Stossel and he makes some good points. Although kidneys ARE sold in India, comparing that to selling sperm, hair and eggs--of which we have an unlimited supply, easily harvested--is not really a good comparison. Removing a kidney is a major, invasive surgery and potentially dangerous.

It might be interesting to point out that much of which we are, today, not accepting of e.g. human or animal sacrifice, "religious" prostitution (both female and male), child prostitution, child marriage, slavery, paying for penance, etc. was the norm in other times and other cultures.
It is my kidney and if I want to sell it, that is not the government's business.
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:24 AM
 
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It is my kidney and if I want to sell it, that is not the government's business.
Then go to India and you can easily find a market for it with no government interference.
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:36 AM
 
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Organ selling, bad idea.

Does anyone in their right mind believe a black market won't grow up around this?

An Independent Investigation into Allegations of Organ Harvesting of Falun Gong Practitioners in China

Oh geez, I need a few bucks, lemme sell my right lung

Have followed Stossel for years, he's a voice of common sense in a sea of smoke & mirrors.
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:49 AM
 
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It is my kidney and if I want to sell it, that is not the government's business.
Exactly. Why should the government care if you sell one of your extra kidneys? Same with blood, why can't you sell it? Patients spend hundreds for one unit of blood -- but the donor isn't supposed to get even $20? Someone else makes a profit. Some of those blood centers are heavily staffed with very well paid people.
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:52 AM
 
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Organ selling, bad idea.

Does anyone in their right mind believe a black market won't grow up around this?

An Independent Investigation into Allegations of Organ Harvesting of Falun Gong Practitioners in China

Oh geez, I need a few bucks, lemme sell my right lung

Have followed Stossel for years, he's a voice of common sense in a sea of smoke & mirrors.
But why? So many people end up dying when one little kidney could have saved them. Someone might not be inspired to go through all the pain for nothing just to donate it free, but might want to save a life if there were a little something in return.

Now livers can be donated in just pieces because they grow back. If someone wants to buy just a chunk of my liver, why can't I help them and get some money too? It's me that has to live with the surgical scars.

And the whole abortion argument is that the baby is really just part of the woman's body, she can have the baby surgically removed and left to die -- so why can't I have my kidney surgically removed and have it living in someone else?
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