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Old 09-01-2011, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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I am not a conservative or anything close to it simple simon, so lay off the koolaid.....and abortion IS murder.
By the legal definition of murder, abortion cannot be murder.
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:01 PM
 
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I am not a conservative or anything close to it simple simon, so lay off the koolaid.....and abortion IS murder.
No, abortion is not murder. Murder is a legal definition, not a moral one. Murder is defined as "the unlawful killing of another human being with malice aforethought".

1) An embryo/fetus by law is not a human being.
2) Abortion is usually not done with malice.
3) Abortion is not unlawful.

Ergo, abortion is not murder.
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:04 PM
 
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I know of no place or time in history that the slaughter of the innocent has been tolerated by a society.
Might want to read the Bible you always claim you understand.
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:06 PM
 
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I also live in Michigan.

Why should I be forced to feed, clothe and shelter a person who killed an innocent individual over $11?

Unlike these two individuals, a fetus has harmed no one. If the parents don't want the child, why should this child's life be taken? Is being unplanned and unwanted a worse crime than killing an innocent person over $11?
What if a fetus doesn't want to be born? You seem perfectly happy with the idea of bringing more children into the world to suffer and end up in hell.

And you call yourself a Christian!
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:09 PM
 
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What if a fetus doesn't want to be born? You seem perfectly happy with the idea of bringing more children into the world to suffer and end up in hell.

And you call yourself a Christian!
Keep your legs closed then.
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:13 PM
 
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Keep your legs closed then.
Right, because abstinence education works so well. Oh wait, the Bible belt has the most teen pregnancies in the nation.

Conservatives are hypocrites, as usual.
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:14 PM
 
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Right, because abstinence education works so well. Oh wait, the Bible belt has the most teen pregnancies in the nation.

Conservatives are hypocrites, as usual.
Abstinence is 100% effective.
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:19 PM
 
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Abstinence is 100% effective.
tell that to the twelve year old who is a victim of rape by her father or some other creep. think outside the box cal.....life isn't a bed of roses as forrest said sh*t happens. ugly sh*t
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Abstinence is 100% effective.
Only if practiced, problem is most teenagers are not interested in the message and since you want nothing else taught you get Babys and Abortions. Funny thing about teenagers, they often look like adults so some make the mistake of treating them as such, the problem is their minds are still under construction so they do not always make adult choices.
Casper
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:24 PM
 
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tell that to the twelve year old who is a victim of rape by her father or some other creep. think outside the box cal.....life isn't a bed of roses as forrest said sh*t happens. ugly sh*t
So true, some seem to believe the world is all about adults making adult choices.
Casper
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