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Old 09-08-2011, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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You really believe this stuff, don't you? You were fed a load of propaganda by the likes of Nancy Pelosi who, seeing the effect that tea party rallies were having on the national debate on the Democrat agenda and, rather than engage the tea party concerns and arguments, she and her allies in the media began demonizing tea partiers as racists, corporate pawns and any other pejorative they could muster. And you internalized that tripe so that it has become truth to you.
Exactly!

Pelosi and 0bama cannot defend the huge federal debt the have created, cannot justify all the trillions spent on stimulus, so they can only demonize the people who are voicing their opinions and pointing these things out.

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In reality tea partiers are a rag-tag lot with varying ideas and agendas united only by their fear that this country is heading in the wrong direction and that the present course is so perilous for the future of our nation that they needed to stand up and say something before it was too late. If you bothered to speak to actual tea party members you would find that they have no great love for crony captialists who got bailed out at tax payer expense, including banks, brokerage houses, insurance companies, automobile companies, etc. Tea partiers understand that it is the unholy marriage between special interests of all types and our elected officials that is killing this country.
Pelosi and 0bama cannot defend the hundreds of billions that they give to their corporate and political cronies either, so they have to demonize the people who are pointing this out too.

they cannot defend the $24 billion in fraud from the 0bama stimulus, so they have to scream racist, terrorist, barbarian, and sons of *******, hoping Americans will become distracted.
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Old 09-08-2011, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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^^^^^^^

This is the sum and substance of the entire "Take Out The Tea Party" outrage we are now seeing.
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Old 09-08-2011, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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No offense, but the tea party might have a lot more credibility, let alone support, if they weren't so easily co-opted either by the interests of the GOP or else by the wingnut "social conservatives".... who seem more interested in fighting things like gay marriage, abortion and "illegals", than they care about the "economy"!


You may be surprised to find that Americans are split on homosexual marriage and unrestricted abortion. As for illegals, they take jobs from Americans. How is that a separate issue from the economy?
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Old 09-08-2011, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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What I want is the complete destruction of crony capitalism and the American way of Greed. I want to establish free markets and actual capitalism with real rewards and real risk for all investors.

Is that radical enough?
add corrupt lobbyists in there and it would be great reform. Politicians are too corrupt though, they need their 11 cars and 13 houses. It is beyond sickening.
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Old 09-08-2011, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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I dont give a damn abt gay marriage or abortion- the economy is destroyed in U.S. -WHICH party is offering a solution on the ECONOMY
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Old 09-08-2011, 11:13 AM
 
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The Tea Party as a Cargo Cult | Psychology Today

The corrupt powers that be have manipulated and seduced an ill informed and weak minded bunch of ignorant people to believe that bowing down to corporate entities, Voodoo Economics and Wall Street thievery will actually improve their lives and recapture the good old days. They are too stupid to understand how they are feeding the beast and actually hurting this nation beyond repair.
That article makes a mockery of objective science. It would have been somewhat clever (albeit inaccurate) if it was written in The Nation, but seeing as how this guy is trying to paint a political diatribe as a serious scientific observation just goes to show that he is a quack.

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This sounds more like the Obama Cargo Cult. Obama was supposed to make the heavens rain down prosperity and homes and money, if you recall. If anything the Tea Party would be closer to the Maori resisting the british government.
I do find it amusing that so many critics of the Tea Party movement like to use historical examples, but blatantly ignore the Cult of Personality that follows Barrack Obama and unlike the Cargo Cult comparison (which is a bit of a stretch), you can clearly see the similarities between the followers of Obama and other Great Leaders.
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Old 09-08-2011, 11:21 AM
 
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I dont give a damn abt gay marriage or abortion- the economy is destroyed in U.S. -WHICH party is offering a solution on the ECONOMY
I think that it all boils down to one thing...Campaign Finance Reform...problem is, with the exception of a very few, politicians will never stand up to take the money out of politics. They're either way too entrenched with the revolving door lobbyist crap or too deep into cronyism with Cororate America. Now with the Supreme Court ruling that there are no limits on campaign donations and very often with zero disclosure and transparency, how does the average American stand a chance?

The way things stand now, how can a viable candidate run for the Presidency without a billion dollars to campaign with? Does everyone not see what is wrong with this picture?
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Old 09-08-2011, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The average American is not supposed to have a chance. Only the properly wealthy and connected Americans and their children are supposed to have a chance. The rest can just shut up and keep working if they still have jobs. If not they can shut up and live on unemployment. Everything will be fine so long as they pay their student loans and buy Chinese junk on credit.
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Old 09-08-2011, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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so true re: chinese junk. I hope more retail stores start failing, the quality of clothing sold here is so very poor, even designer wear is made in Macao- people should just stop buying.

Target-lol my dh bought jeans at Target and they shrunk 3 sizes after 2 washings- its pathetic what is happening in America, I cant believe more consumers arent outraged.
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Old 09-08-2011, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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More washing and fewer donughts. Joking
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