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does anyone here actually think this country would not be better off today if this law never passed?
one of the major reasons for the great depression was due producing more commodities then the market could handle if there was an influx of people in the 20's the market could handle a lot more.
This bill led to the depopulation of the original ethnic neighborhoods in cities the results of which led to many of the social problems in cities and the results of those problems.
Politically this bill is one of the main reason why Jews to this day still vote democrat (which I'm assuming that if there are any right wing people who are in favor of this bill they deserve this result).
does anyone here actually think this country would not be better off today if this law never passed?
one of the major reasons for the great depression was due producing more commodities then the market could handle if there was an influx of people in the 20's the market could handle a lot more.
This bill led to the depopulation of the original ethnic neighborhoods in cities the results of which led to many of the social problems in cities and the results of those problems.
Politically this bill is one of the main reason why Jews to this day still vote democrat (which I'm assuming that if there are any right wing people who are in favor of this bill they deserve this result).
What about the Smooth-Hawley tariff? Did it have a negative affect on the a largely production economy? Of course it did.
What about price fixing and regulations? Do you think that hurt small business that couldn't stay up with the production practices of larger companies? Of course it did.
What about the AAA(Agricultural Adjustment Act)? Paying people not to farm? Really? Think maybe that could have hurt Americans and worsened the Depression?
You are arguing that by moving a group of people here to buy sh t, that more sh t would be sold. Why not just send the sh t to them??? Oh thats right the Smooth-Hawley tariff. Open you mind to more than one possible answer.
Then again with the screen name NY JEW its obvious you have a chip on your shoulder.
Immigration dried up after 1914 anyway but this made it worse. The Depression would not have been nearly as bad if immigration had just slowed down after 1914 and not dropped off a cliff.
What about the Smooth-Hawley tariff? Did it have a negative affect on the a largely production economy? Of course it did.
What about price fixing and regulations? Do you think that hurt small business that couldn't stay up with the production practices of larger companies? Of course it did.
What about the AAA(Agricultural Adjustment Act)? Paying people not to farm? Really? Think maybe that could have hurt Americans and worsened the Depression?
and what does this have to do with anything they were as you said things that prolonged the depression not started them?
did I ever say I was in favor of these laws?
fact is that the from the great wave of immigration (1880 and 1924) was a major factor in this country's world dominating preeminence and stopping has to rank as one of the dumbest moves this country has ever made.
you wrote this earlier
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Highly skilled immigrants are helpful and needed. Low skilled chain migration beneficiaries are not. Teddy Kennedy set our current immigration debacle into motion in the mid sixties. "Family Reunification Act" aka chain migration.
In times of low unemployment, all immigration should slow. Free flowing immigration, a welfare system, and high unemployment don't work well.
1. (first sentence) so you want a higher immigration rate during high unemployment to increase the unemployment?
2. while your second comment makes sense and all 3 factors together I agree with you on
A. there wasn't high unemployment in 1924
B. there wasn't a welfare system in 1924
C. Even if both those factors are true there are better ways of dealing with the problem like not allowing anyone to go on those (non exciting at the time) welfare programs until after a certain length of time.
3. during that generation of immigrants there weren't any Low skilled chain migration beneficiaries because only through working hard (which it's super clear that they were much harder workers then the average American at the time) would they be beneficiaries. (as a side point during the first generation children and second generation immigrants were much higher skilled then the average American Born child (not including second generationers))
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Then again with the screen name NY JEW its obvious you have a chip on your shoulder.
Immigration dried up after 1914 anyway but this made it worse. The Depression would not have been nearly as bad if immigration had just slowed down after 1914 and not dropped off a cliff.
Immigration dried up after 1914 due to WWI remember that most immigrants in 1914 were Jewish (from Eastern Europe) and Italian. After WWI the numbers jumped up 141,132 in 1919 to 430,001 in 1920 and 805,228 (1909 had 751,786) in 1921 (when the Emergency Quota Act was passed)
does anyone here actually think this country would not be better off today if this law never passed?
one of the major reasons for the great depression was due producing more commodities then the market could handle if there was an influx of people in the 20's the market could handle a lot more.
This bill led to the depopulation of the original ethnic neighborhoods in cities the results of which led to many of the social problems in cities and the results of those problems.
Politically this bill is one of the main reason why Jews to this day still vote democrat (which I'm assuming that if there are any right wing people who are in favor of this bill they deserve this result).
Please Jews vote democrat because Jews have been embracing liberalism as a means to social mobility for centuries.
The Immigration bill if 1924 has its flaws but it is a lot better than the awful bill Kennedy and LBJ rammed through in 1965.
Please Jews vote democrat because Jews have been embracing liberalism as a means to social mobility for centuries.
besides the fact that your previous posts imply your an anti semite you might still appreciate facts
first of all the best McCain ED in the country was 100% Jewish (885-3-1)
here are the jewish election% numbers (a republician has never gotten more then Harding ever since)
1916 election Hughes (R) 45% Wilson (D) 55%
1920 election Harding (R) 43% Cox (D) 19% Debs (Soc) 38%
1924 election Coolidge (R) 27% Davis 51% La Folette (Progressive) 22%
you do know that the Jewish vote was divided in to many different widely divergent groups (Orthodox, Reform, Socialists, Zionists ext.) in the 1920's and the uniting factor was this anti semetic bill (Jews as a whole were a swing vote until 1924)
as a side piece the only Jewish person I could find at the time who supported this bill was a left wing nut job
Immigration dried up after 1914 due to WWI remember that most immigrants in 1914 were Jewish (from Eastern Europe) and Italian. After WWI the numbers jumped up 141,132 in 1919 to 430,001 in 1920 and 805,228 (1909 had 751,786) in 1921 (when the Emergency Quota Act was passed)
Sure, they came back but nothing like the pre-1914 numbers. Either way, quotas were a mistake.
What is you source for those number BTW, I have seen different numbers?
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