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View Poll Results: Was the US justified in bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Yes. The US was justified 144 79.56%
No. The US was not justified. 32 17.68%
Other 5 2.76%
Voters: 181. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-14-2011, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Oh really? So, what would have happened if they did? Look, I'm not exactly pro-war, but if you start one, and by that I mean fire the first shots, then you DAMN WELL better be able to finish it! I'll use your street fight analogy, with a bit of personal experience. 99.99% of the time I won't take the first swing, and will more than likely let the other person attempt to attack me, as I am Mr. Myagi in that aspect. But if you put your f***n' hands on me, I will use whatever means necessary to make sure that my defense of the attack AND counter-attack leaves me the one left standing!
Would that counter-attack include setting his house on fire, raping his wife and beating his kids into the pavement?
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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No you didn't. By your definition of innocent, do you personally feel that it is sometimes ok to kill innocent individuals?

I did and you have some sort of agenda in being unable to read properly.

Another waste of a CD-POC.....
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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You are entirely incorrect and have not really explained your logic on how so and have taken my points out of context. I could detail them but prefer for you to use critical thinking skills and solve this. Advise me if you do not see the error of your statement and I will clarify.
No need to clarify. You said infants, cripples and old-timers are the only people to be considered. There was a much higher proportion of those people in the cities we bombed than in the World Trade Center, in the Pentagon, or on any of the airplanes. By your standards, then, 9/11 would be almost morally perfect.
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:49 PM
 
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So, both of you are saying that, "It is sometimes ok to target innocent individuals?"
No. I think of it as a necessary deed to save millions of our people, end the war quickly, and liberate millions of others under Japanese tyranny.
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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No. I think of it as a necessary deed to save millions of our people
There was a peace offer in July. This has been beaten to death so many times I can't believe there is a person on C-D who does not know this.
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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I did and you have some sort of agenda in being unable to read properly.
I must have missed it, though I have re-read the thread.

I'll ask again, and this time I won't miss it.

Do you feel that violence, including killing, towards innocent civilian targets is sometimes justified?

I won't hold my breath waiting for you to man-up and be clear and forthcoming with your answer
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:52 PM
 
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There was a peace offer in July. This has been beaten to death so many times I can't believe there is a person on C-D who does not know this.
Can you elaborate please? Since you are apparently the only person on CD who knows this.
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Can you elaborate please? Since you are apparently the only person on CD who knows this.
How many threads on this would you like to see?

Here's a start:

Truman Lied, Hundreds of Thousands Died
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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No. I think of it as a necessary deed to save millions of our people, end the war quickly, and liberate millions of others under Japanese tyranny.
If it is necessary, it must be justified.

Do you feel that violence, including killing, towards innocent civilian targets is sometimes justified?
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:57 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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It is a documented fact that Japan was offering a negotiated peace before the bombs were dropped. This has been beaten to death on many threads on C-D.
Japan forfeited their right to negotiate on December 7, 1941.
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