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Old 09-27-2011, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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WHOA, 155 pages! Cliff notes please? Abridged version??
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Old 09-28-2011, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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The support for it grows ..

Political Animal - Economists: Jobs Act may prevent recession
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Old 09-28-2011, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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support for a bill that will create ZERO private sector jobs, and grow a costly government.....way to go guys
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Old 09-28-2011, 12:08 PM
 
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WHOA, 155 pages! Cliff notes please? Abridged version??
That's what this is for - people to take notable parts of the bill and hopefully make it understandable.

They do make bills hard to understand (on purpose IMHO) when they make references to amending some obscure US Code. Then if you look for it in the code, it is not a straight forward search. I'm getting better at it though.
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Old 09-28-2011, 12:29 PM
 
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Here's a code example.

Sec. 5 of the Jobs Bill says...

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Notwithstanding any other provision of law and in a manner consistent with other provisions in this Act, all laborers and mechanics employed by contractors and subcontractors on projects funded directly by or assisted in whole or in part by and through the Federal Government pursuant to this Act shall be paid wages at rates not less than those prevailing on projects of a character similar in the locality as determined by the Secretary of Labor in accordance with subchapter IV of chapter 31 of title 40, United States Code.
So you go to subchapter IV of chapter 31 of title 40, and it says this in the definitions.

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In this subchapter, the following definitions apply:
(1) Federal government.--The term ``Federal Government'' has the
same meaning that the term ``United States'' had in the Act of March
3, 1931 (ch. 411, 46 Stat. 1494) (known as the Davis-Bacon Act).
So this bill will reinstate Davis Bacon wages rules - but you wouldn't know that from reading the bill alone. You have to go to secondary and tertiary references to figure out this stuff.

The article I referenced yesterday makes this comment about Davis Bacon.

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For those with short memories, the 1931 statute was introduced to keep "itinerant colored workers" from the South from underbidding union workers in the North.

Today, the racial element is thankfully gone, but the economic madness is continued in the AJA, which extends the old Davis-Bacon wage restriction to these new government projects. A sound government tries to pay less for more, not more for less. To be sure, this provision will put more money in the pockets of some working Americans. But it will also take money out of the pockets of others. How this new protectionist measure creates jobs is left unexplained.
Sounds typical for the administration.
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Old 10-11-2011, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Senate vote coming shortly. Likely with zero Repubs. Bill paid for by Millionaire tax hugely supported by American people. Repubs "got some splainin to do" I think.
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Old 10-11-2011, 04:54 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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This bill is nothing but a gigantic waste of more taxpayer money.
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Old 10-11-2011, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Cloture procedure vote has blocked the Bill from moving forward. All Repubs plus 2 Dems vote against the wishes and needs of Americans.

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Old 10-11-2011, 05:30 PM
 
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This is nothing more than Obama's weak bid for reelection. Weak because even the Democrats couldn't even get it passed in the Senate.
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Old 10-11-2011, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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This is nothing more than Obama's weak bid for reelection. Weak because even the Democrats couldn't even get it passed in the Senate.
Yep, as usual they need 60 or more Dems. Hopefully 2012 will fix that.
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