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Old 09-18-2011, 04:13 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Let me play devil's advocate and ask, would it even matter if gators died out?
All over the US and Europe the spread of humans has caused numerous species, especially large animals, to disappear. And somehow it seems like it didn't really matter, other animals or even humans have taken their places Or the entire region affected has been turned into farmland...
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Old 09-18-2011, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Let me play devil's advocate and ask, would it even matter if gators died out?
All over the US and Europe the spread of humans has caused numerous species, especially large animals, to disappear. And somehow it seems like it didn't really matter, other animals or even humans have taken their places Or the entire region affected has been turned into farmland...
Good question, and I dont think its a case of playing the Devils advocate at all.
I would think so, when they are small they serve as food for other species, and in turn, when they are larger, they keep other species in check.
Its the whole check and balance thing, too bad another poster doesnt see it that way.
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Old 09-18-2011, 09:37 PM
 
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Yes but humans are also part of that equation.
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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We could use a few of em in Louisiana
to keep the nutria population in check.
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Old 09-19-2011, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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We could use a few of em in Louisiana
to keep the nutria population in check.
Perhaps the next law enacted could be a declaration of open season on nutria. (After first making sure that their civil rights aren't being violated, of course).
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Old 09-19-2011, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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IRRC most of these snakes were "released" from captivity by the damages created by a Hurricane? Once loose they found a paradise and went forth and multiplied. I suggest sitting back and studying how the eco system adjusts to the newcomers. Eventually something will come along that eats pythons. Be patient.
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Old 09-19-2011, 08:43 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I didn't realize that python trading was such a large percentage of the GDP
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Old 09-19-2011, 01:01 PM
 
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So why shouldn't the states handle this? Why should it be a federal ban? Shouldn't the states take care of banning ownership and sale of invasive species?
The state of Louisiana bans the sale and importation of invasive species, Mississippi choses not to. A great day for state's rights. Unfortunately invasive species have a tendency not to pay attention to state borders.
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Old 09-19-2011, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Eventually something will come along that eats pythons. Be patient.
Such as?
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Old 09-19-2011, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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So why shouldn't the states handle this? Why should it be a federal ban? Shouldn't the states take care of banning ownership and sale of invasive species?


I can see the Dept. of the interior making it a federal crime to release them on federal lands, such as the Everglades. I'm just not certain the whole interstate commerce intervention is anything more than symbolic. States could ban people from bringing them in from out of state the same way they ban import of certain plants, could they not?
You may find this hard to believe, but I doubt that pythons are punctilious about observing interstate boundaries and confining their travels to the state in which they were originally purchased or imported.
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