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Old 09-23-2011, 07:21 AM
 
Location: South East
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Let's edit this sentence for accuracy:


"Of course, some people still treat homosexuality as a choice or a behavior, rather than an immutable, ingrained characteristic such as race or left-handedness. Science, academia, educated people, and people who actually have first hand experience know otherwise."


This kid is too young to have developed opinions like this on his own. His parents, most likely unevolved troglodytes themselves who have a "problem" with anything different from their own racial, ethnic, religious and sexual demographic, are doing this child a huge disfavor by indoctrinating him and making him ill-equipped to ever function at his maximum potential in the workplace anywhere in Western Civilization. Perhaps he can be a gun salesman, but he'll definitely run into problems should he ever choose to go to a real college, or try to obtain a successful career dealing with...well, society at large rather than the fringe right.
You are absolutely wrong.

I have a 12 year old whom is perfectly capable of forming her own opinion. However, we have raised her in an educated environment. I guess lefties do not do the same.

Of course people have beliefs! That is idiotic to claim otherwise or to demean one for those beliefs. The gay community sure flaunts and screams their beliefs - are they wrong to do so? Oh of course not - because the lefties live by the "good for thee but not for me" double standard which suits their cases so perfectly.

The left can shout their beliefs to the rooftops and everyone else is supposed to accept and deal with it. But Heaven forbid an opposing belief or view come up. Then the left goes rabid.

I am so over this cr*p coming from the left. Especially dealing with homosexuality. What use to be a tolerance for me is fast becoming a big intolerance.

And btw....I am PROUDLY far right and I went to a real college, own and operate a very successful business, pay for private education for my child, and my family has a very nice life. So you fail again at trying to say/assume someone without radical leftie beliefs are failures.
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:22 AM
 
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And the leftie wingnuts use every episode and situation they can flaunt their socialistic views.

The student should not have been punished and the teacher should receive some form of disciplinary action.
Wow that's very big of you. Standing up for the free speech of someone that supports your values.

No can you grow up, be and adult, and stand up for free speech that you don't agree with? That's the question which will prove your "free speech" credibility.

I can. I fully support the student if what Fox is reporting is correct. But I have principles that transcend right v left.
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:24 AM
 
Location: South East
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What would you expect from a child in Texas? Most likely this child has been emerged in christian doctrine since the day he opened his eyes. Talk about brainwashing!!! He has never had a chance to formulate his own ideals and values because christians have pumped their beliefs and values into his head since the day he began walking.

Regardless, this person has the right to express his viewpoint and should not have be punished.
So now Texas is bad? And I suppose you think the California land of fruits and nuts is good?

What is bad about being a Christian? I am a PROUD Christian and have raised my child to be also. You are not? That is your trip to take and I will not demean your values so do NOT demean mine.

The lefties create radical, socialist robots to fight their cause on a regular basis. No denying that - just look around at the robots still spewiing 'hopey changey is coming.'
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:26 AM
 
Location: South East
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Thank God for good parents.

Exactly!!! Good parents instilling values in their children so they can be a positive part of society. Nothing wrong with that!
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:29 AM
 
Location: South East
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Here's another thing.

These right wing Christian cry babies are using the "free speech" angle now......but had the teacher advocated his support for gay marriage they would be out in force trying to shut him up.

Support the students free speech right when you agree with the views, shut teachers free speech rights down when they support something you don't agree with.

This is the mentality from your average Bible thumper in Ft. Worth Texas.

Yet another failure coming from the radical left nuts.

The gay community has cried free speech and acceptance non stop. And btw....did you READ the article? I didn't thin so. Most lefties do not -they just pick what they want to use and twist it to suit their purpose. The teacher had displayed photos and advocated gay rights in this particular class. ummmm.....I guess German class is the appropriate forum for the teacher's obvious personal views.

Don't worry - I will pray for you.
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:32 AM
 
Location: South East
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Wow that's very big of you. Standing up for the free speech of someone that supports your values.

No can you grow up, be and adult, and stand up for free speech that you don't agree with? That's the question which will prove your "free speech" credibility.

I can. I fully support the student if what Fox is reporting is correct. But I have principles that transcend right v left.

Right back at you! Very big of you, too.

What other free speech are you referring to in the particular case? The free speech/actions of the teacher in a GERMAN class discussing homosexuality and gay rights. Oh, that really fits. Talk about needing to grow up and be an adult....take your own advice.
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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A normal 14-year-old boy does not have such an attitude, obviously he had already been brainwashed by his parents before.

PS: Just saw that there is a thread on that already:
Fort Worth Student Disciplined for Saying Homosexuality Is Wrong
Wrong. MANY normal 14 year olds have such an attitude. Several major religions teach that, if if that's how these children grew up, and the information they have been exposed to all their lives state it's wrong, that's what they believe. It's not only the Parents, it's the preachers, Priests, and other spiritual leaders of various organized religions, as well as their teachings that provides children while growing up this information. It's not brainwashing, which is another term bandied about by people who don't like what other's are taught, if it concerns something negative about their beliefs or lives.

I am NOT saying it's right, I am just stating a fact, whether YOU like it or not.
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:33 AM
 
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Yet another failure coming from the radical left nuts.

The gay community has cried free speech and acceptance non stop. And btw....did you READ the article? I didn't thin so. Most lefties do not -they just pick what they want to use and twist it to suit their purpose. The teacher had displayed photos and advocated gay rights in this particular class. ummmm.....I guess German class is the appropriate forum for the teacher's obvious personal views.

Don't worry - I will pray for you.
So the answer is no.

You don't support "free speech" in the classroom when it involves speech you don't agree with.....LOL

[This folks, is your typical Bible thumper who whines about free speech for Christian only....the rest of us can get lost]
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:37 AM
 
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He can have that opinion all he wants. However, school is no place to express your "dislike" for what other people who may be in the class simply "are."


Kids have been doing this since the beginning of time.
Not always in a classroom, but surely you get the point.

Whether the kid is gay, red-haired, fat, creative, stupid, shy, loud, stuttering, awkward, whatever...it happens.
And having an opinion about others (and/or expressing that opinion) isn't limited to kids.

There's a post somewhere upthread asking if we are raising opinion-free autobots. And clearly that is what some of you expect.
We're raising humans. Humans have faults. Humans have opinions.
Humans can learn from others, and from experiences.
The way we are raising kids now, they will be unable to walk out the door in case a raindrop should fall from the sky onto their head.

True bullying should be discouraged and dealt with,
but stop sanitizing every little thing a kid does.
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:37 AM
 
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Texas School Punishes Boy For Opposing Homosexuality | Fox News

What an absolutely ridiculous over-reaction by the school. And why was the teacher posting pictures of this and telling children that they need to accept this as fact?

Of course, some people still treat homosexuality as a race instead of a behavior. We need to teach tolerance for people who believe that this behavior is wrong instead of brainwashing kids into "accepting" it.
Homosexuality is not a behavior, there are plenty of celibate gays. And there is already a long thread on this. Try reading the board before posting another stupid thread on it.

The principal dropped the suspension btw, so it's a moot story.
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