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Old 09-25-2011, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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BTW, I think we either need to separate homosexuals from heterosexuals or stop separating males and females. Can give us a logical explanation for why we separate one but not the other?
How about you give us logical explanation for the bolded? So now you're saying that, instead of DADT, we need to make that a question on the application to join the military, just so we can then build separate accommodations for them and make it a POINT to identify the gay soldiers? The whole POINT to repealing DADT was supposed to be that one's sexual orientation DOESN'T MATTER.

 
Old 09-25-2011, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Pa
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It's discriminatory and led to many gays getting kicked out of the military because someone accidently found out.

If freakin Israel can handle gays in the military with no adverse effects, Americans need to grow the heck up.
Uhmmmm true. But to be fair many also used it to get kicked out......
By this I mean they wanted out before the end of their enlistment .
Early in my career the code was sleep walking. If someone claimed they were getting a discharge due to sleep walking it was a 95% chance it was really due to being gay. Later it was just out in the open DADT.
 
Old 09-25-2011, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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It's not ok to blame everyone for what a few do. Sorry but thats just common sense.
Show just one post in this thread where anyone is "blaming everyone" for what one or two people did. It was disrespectful for that one or two to boo that soldier and it was disrespectful for the majority to cheer Santorum's ridiculous rant about sex, when the question had nothing to do with sex.
 
Old 09-25-2011, 02:31 PM
 
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You can't fix stupid.
Yes, I've seen that from your posts. Did you have a point?
 
Old 09-25-2011, 02:35 PM
 
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So if one group lies about who they are, everyone in that group also lies about who they are?

Why does acknowledging that a tiny subgroup varies from the norm necessarily involve ridicule?

The 1-2% of the population that self-identifies as homosexual are abnormal.

Is that not factually true?


Know why you don't have to tell the people at your favorite pizzeria to add mozzarella cheese to your pizza?

That's because pizza with cheese is a normal pizza.

I see people eat pizza without cheese and I think they are nuts.

Does that mean I'm an intolerant cheese bigot who secretly desires pizza without cheese?
Because all your posts are dripping with ridicule and insults about gays based on 100% false information.

And pizza is a really bad analogy. I don't see you calling non-cheese pizza eaters abnormal, perverted, disgusting, don't deserve rights, etc. I do see you say those things about gays. Based on your absolute disdain for gay people, I'm quite convinced you're closeted, and scientific studies would support my conclusion.

Perhaps we should give all the homophobes on this board a tumescence exam in response to homoerotic pictures and see the truth that their mouth doesn't want to admit.
 
Old 09-25-2011, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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California's Prop 8, everyone knows about that.
Come on, wehotex. Don't exaggerate. Yes, we all know about the Church's stance on Prop 8 and all about its involvement. But "terror campaign"? Good grief.
 
Old 09-25-2011, 02:37 PM
 
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Because all your posts are dripping with ridicule and insults about gays based on 100% false information.

And pizza is a really bad analogy. I don't see you calling non-cheese pizza eaters abnormal, perverted, disgusting, don't deserve rights, etc. I do see you say those things about gays. Based on your absolute disdain for gay people, I'm quite convinced you're closeted, and scientific studies would support my conclusion.

Perhaps we should give all the homophobes on this board a tumescence exam in response to homoerotic pictures and see the truth that their mouth doesn't want to admit.
 
Old 09-25-2011, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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You are quite welcome. You and others obviously needed clarifcation. The military is certainly not there to make every "oppressed minority" feel unequal and excluded regardless of the military's needs.

True enough sickofnyc.

So, which excluded minority group should be the next one to be included in the military?

I say the physically handicapped...oh, sorry...I mean to say the physically challenged. After that we can work something out for the visually impared.

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Old 09-25-2011, 02:39 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Yes, I've seen that from your posts. Did you have a point?

Well yes. Your post to start.
 
Old 09-25-2011, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Why is it important or even necessary for that matter that we are required to be made aware of the individual’s sexuality? Is the fact that he is a soldier supposed to somehow validate his homosexuality? The homosexual soldier deliberately injected himself into controversy by asking a premeditated provocative confrontational question in a specific forum and to a specific individual whom he already knew was not sympathetic to his orientation and cause. The homosexual soldier successfully got the negative reaction he was after.
Who said we are required to be made aware of it? This fellow mentioned it because it was germane to the question he was asking. And he asked the question because, as a soldier who happens to be gay, DADT was an important consideration to him. Had his question been on any other issue, he probably wouldn't have mentioned that he's gay. And his question was directed to ALL of those at that debate table; it just happened to be Santorum's turn to reply.
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