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Old 10-01-2011, 02:21 PM
 
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Until people stop believing the stigma that Black are the oppressed people we will continue to have the policies we do.

In the meanwhile the Hispanics are making inroads and are growing fast. Soon the "oppressed people" will be accusing both the Whites and Hispanics of unfair, racist practices.
Have I ever personally said I was oppressed? I have no complaints with this country or Texas for that matter.

Latinos (hispanic is a fairly ridiculous term) now make up the largest group living in poverty according to the latest Pew report.

I personally am not accusing any white person of oppressing me in any way shape or form (nor latino for that matter) nor do most Blacks. However to act as though this country's long history of oppression doesn't have lasting (and now diminishing) effects is foolish.

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Old 10-01-2011, 03:36 PM
 
Location: in area code 919 & from 716
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So you would support a situation where the University system was not admitting anyone say of European descent and was prevented by law from determining why that might be occurring. Which is the current state of the law in California.
get a different crystal ball - this one isn't even close

where did your assumption come from?

I say if there is an imbalance - PERHAPS it's their choice ...

That is what the analogy of a mechanic not doing brain surgery ...

FACE IT - too many self loathing people complain about self inflicted disadvantages.

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Perhaps we need to correct the imbalance of mechanics who do not preform Brain surgery as well ... that too is unbalanced!

Yes - I am being cynical ... however - when will cramming numbers down peoples throats be too far and imposing on those who are not in those numeric demographics?
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Old 10-01-2011, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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get a different crystal ball - this one isn't even close

where did your assumption come from?

I say if there is an imbalance - PERHAPS it's their choice ...

That is what the analogy of a mechanic not doing brain surgery ...

FACE IT - too many self loathing people complain about self inflicted disadvantages.
Under current law the University system isn't even permitted to examine the issue and see if there are reasonable steps that can be taken. So I guess everyone can have an opinion, but the University officials are forced to wear blinders. It is easy to not see a problem when your eyes are closed.
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Old 10-01-2011, 06:12 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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What does that have to do with race? There are poor whites, rich whites, poor blacks, and poor whites. There is no logical reason to go with race instead of the actual disadvantages.

By the way that analogy sucks. The ingredients are in the cupcake, not the buyer.
Just about every poor white person that I've ever known has a least one very well off rich family member in his circle. Whites have owned properties for generations, had access to the best jobs and education, and are constantly inheriting things from their deceased relatives. Race is a factor in how far you can go in this country if you don't work harder and smarter than whitey.
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Old 10-01-2011, 06:23 PM
 
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Just about every poor white person that I've ever known has a least one very well off rich family member in his circle. Whites have owned properties for generations, had access to the best jobs and education, and are constantly inheriting things from their deceased relatives. Race is a factor in how far you can go in this country if you don't work harder and smarter than whitey.
First off, there are millions of poor white people that don't inherit anything and don't own property. Second, what you're doing now is stereotyping and using that to decide that whites are better off. Any SES methods would probably take these factors into account.
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Old 10-01-2011, 08:37 PM
 
Location: California
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Sam, apparently the "new" definition is that an inheritance is now what you get from the taxpayers circle instead of from an individual including someone in a will. The result is that the two are becoming one, just from different sources. Hope that clarifies the confusion!
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