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Old 10-04-2011, 11:14 AM
 
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Marxist Joseph Stalin of the Soviet Union killed more than 50 million. He had a "clue about what Marx preached".

Marx is murder.
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:15 AM
 
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Marxist Joseph Stalin of the Soviet Union killed more than 50 million. He had a "clue about what Marx preached".

Marx is murder.
Stalin was as much a Marxist as Mussolini was a Capitalist. They all had clue alright, the problem is with the clues you're clinging onto.
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:17 AM
 
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Stalin was as much a Marxist as Mussolini was a Capitalist. They all had clue alright, the problem is with the clues you're clinging onto.
You have earned your screen name.
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:20 AM
 
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Marxist Eterenal President Kim Il Sung and Supreme Leader Kim Jong-Il killed about 4 million people in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Kim had a "clue about what Marx preached".
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:22 AM
 
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Marxist Joseph Stalin of the Soviet Union killed more than 50 million. He had a "clue about what Marx preached".

Marx is murder.
What is the diffence between Stalinism and Trotskyism. What about Stalinism and Marxism? Stalinism and Communism?
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:22 AM
 
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After millions killed, Marxism has just never been done correctly...

You ignore history if you believe that Stalin was not a Marxist.
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:22 AM
 
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Well that is proof that reading something doesn't necessarily = comprehension. To imply that Marxism was directly responsible for the deaths of 200 million people is to not understnd Marxism. You do realize that the ultimate goal of Marxism is to have no government?

ok skinny, only you are intelligent enough to understand marx. thanks for clarifying that for the rest of we, the proletariat. btw, i didn't imply that marxism was responsible for all those deaths, i was quite clearly stating a point of FACT. you might want to argue that it was indirect ie bolshevics took the clothes away from people in siberia, or stole all their food or that it was direct, ie lenin and stalin ordered deaths of millions who didn't fullfil their quotas, questioned their ideology.

i also understand that communism is the ideal where no govt exists. funny, it's similar to the place i arrive at with very limited govt. it's just that in a world of freer markets we don't have to pass that totalitarian stage on the way there
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:24 AM
 
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Marxist Eterenal President Kim Il Sung and Supreme Leader Kim Jong-Il killed about 4 million people in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Kim had a "clue about what Marx preached".
Likely more than you do, as did Hitler about Capitalism. See, there is more to things, in reality, than the name you want to associate with them. Your being clueless about Marx and his take on economy is something you claim to have read, but you clearly didn't get it. Besides, your examples also assume politics and economics being integral and interchangeable. That itself is a problem you might want to address first. Then perhaps take up and study Marx.
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:25 AM
 
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Skinny Puppy - except for "liberalism", all of the theories you've tossed out are Marxist derivatives. I don't really care that Juche is Stalinist - they are both Marxist.
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:26 AM
 
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"How do you tell a Communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin."

Ronald Reagan
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