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Old 10-08-2011, 12:11 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
From a rest of the world perspective, there is no bigger danger to world peace than America. Look how many countries we have bombed in the last few decades.
Plus we have the distinction of being the only country to ever drop A-bombs.

Can't blame Iran for wanting them, although I'd prefer no one had them.
...what you prefer is of no consequence...just sayin'
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Old 10-08-2011, 12:21 AM
 
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Maybe Netanyahu should focus on his own nuclear weapons program and his country's history of carrying out an illegal occupation and annexation.

Israel is a large supporter of terrorism too... they just use the IDF to commit their terrorist acts.
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Old 10-08-2011, 01:15 AM
 
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I avoided this forum for a long time because of the low quality of posters evidenced by moronic garbage like this.

Can Israel arm terrorist groups and send them in iranian pizza parlors and restaurants too?
Are you saying Iran can make suitcase nuclear weapons? Suitcase nuclear weapons have never been produced and are considered theoretical at best. If both the United States and the Soviet Union had difficulty producing miniature nuclear weapons with a sufficient yield, what makes you think the Iranians can build them? Also, the smallest nuclear device (Davy Crockett) has a yield of around a kiloton which is equivalent to an MOAB. That is hardly something equivalent to a regular nuclear weapon although it does produce quite a lot of radiation within a small radius. The threat of nuclear terrorism is a joke.

In regards to the OP, Netanyahu is again exaggerating about Iran. Even if Iran produced a nuclear weapon, they don't even have a sufficient deliverable vehicle to pose a nuclear threat to Israel. Iranian missiles are notoriously inaccurate and they don't have a long range bomber to reach Israel. This isn't even taking into account, the various American military bases throughout the Persian Gulf surrounding Iran that will make it difficult for Iran to even attack Israel.
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Old 10-08-2011, 01:50 AM
 
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The hypocrisy of Netanyahu & Israel is staggering, Israel have had nuclear weapons since the 1960s.
We know this because Mordechai Vanuna, an Israeli nuclear technician who helped produce these weapons, became a whistleblower.
For exposing the Israeli goverment as liars ( they have always denied & still do today that they possess nuclear weapons) Mr Vanuna was sentenced to 18 years in prison, 11 of those were spent in solitary confinement.
Israel has the bomb, why should'nt Iran have that same right?
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Old 10-08-2011, 02:24 AM
 
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The hypocrisy of Netanyahu & Israel is staggering, Israel have had nuclear weapons since the 1960s.
We know this because Mordechai Vanuna, an Israeli nuclear technician who helped produce these weapons, became a whistleblower.
For exposing the Israeli goverment as liars ( they have always denied & still do today that they possess nuclear weapons) Mr Vanuna was sentenced to 18 years in prison, 11 of those were spent in solitary confinement.
Israel has the bomb, why should'nt Iran have that same right?
Iran isn't allowed to have the bomb because they seek a foreign policy that is detrimental to Western interests. The whole point of nuclear non proliferation is to maintain a balance of power among the current nuclear states and prevent other states from gaining them so that these current nuclear powers can exercise their authority on the weaker non nuclear states. Remember, these nuclear states react quite differently and are more open to concessions when non nuclear states gain nuclear weapons (see North Korea and Pakistan). Basically, non proliferation is just a way for nuclear states to bully non nuclear states to do what the nuclear states want them to do. Also remember, once you go nuclear, war is off the table and diplomacy is usually the only option and most great powers/superpowers HATE diplomacy since concessions always have to be made.

If Iran does get nuclear weapons and have an accurate delivery system, the United States and Israel will be forced to make a lot of concessions to Iran. That's the real reason why Iran is not allowed to have nuclear weapons not because they are crazed lunatics bent on jihad. And besides, if the Iranians were crazed Muslim lunatics why do they have strong relations with secular Christian states like Armenia and Georgia and secular non Islamic states like Japan and South Korea?
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Old 10-08-2011, 08:58 AM
 
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Are you saying Iran can make suitcase nuclear weapons?
Where did I make this claim? And why would I need to? Are the only 2 delivery options for nuclear weapons in either a missile or a suitcase?

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Also, the smallest nuclear device (Davy Crockett) has a yield of around a kiloton which is equivalent to an MOAB. That is hardly something equivalent to a regular nuclear weapon although it does produce quite a lot of radiation within a small radius.
So detonating a small-kiloton device is not a problem in a dense city? What ARE you rambling about?

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The threat of nuclear terrorism is a joke.
To whom, the terrorists?

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In regards to the OP, Netanyahu is again exaggerating about Iran.
Sure he is, since you have 100% total knowledge of iran's capabilities. Man, does this forum suck...

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Even if Iran produced a nuclear weapon, they don't even have a sufficient deliverable vehicle to pose a nuclear threat to Israel.
Sure he is, since you have 100% total knowledge of iran's capabilities. Man, does this forum suck...

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Iranian missiles are notoriously inaccurate
Are the only 2 delivery options for nuclear weapons in either a missile or a suitcase?
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Old 10-08-2011, 08:59 AM
 
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The hypocrisy of Netanyahu & Israel is staggering, Israel have had nuclear weapons since the 1960s.
We know this because Mordechai Vanuna, an Israeli nuclear technician who helped produce these weapons, became a whistleblower.
For exposing the Israeli goverment as liars ( they have always denied & still do today that they possess nuclear weapons) Mr Vanuna was sentenced to 18 years in prison, 11 of those were spent in solitary confinement.
Israel has the bomb, why should'nt Iran have that same right?
It is sad the low quality of the poster this forum attracts. Must be the high quality moderation...
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Old 10-08-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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It is sad the low quality of the poster this forum attracts. Must be the high quality moderation...
Instead of calling us stupid and engaging in ad hominem attacks, why don't you actually address our responses with a well thought out argument. All I see you doing is calling people "mentally ill" or saying "this forum sucks".

In regards to some of your questions. I said Iran doesn't have a long range bomber which means that I mentioned an additional delivery system in addition to the fictitious suitcase bomb and missile delivery systems. I said that US Airbases surround Iran throughout the Persian Gulf and even if they (the Iranians) could build a long range bomber, it would be quickly intercepted by US aircraft if the Iranians tried to bomb Israel. How many Arab countries would even give the Iranians access to their airspace to bomb Israel? Since Iraq is occupied by the United States, that is out of the question and Saudi Arabia and Turkey are both close US allies that are opposed to an Iranian hegemony.
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Old 10-08-2011, 11:43 AM
 
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If you are suggesting that my post is untrue sterpetron, then provide the evidence.
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Old 10-08-2011, 12:00 PM
 
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The same trolling garbage still getting spewed in this forum...

Provide evidence or ****.
Isreal is one of the top sponsors of terrorist groups such as Mossad.
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