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Old 10-11-2011, 08:47 AM
 
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I like to think of a Thomas Jefferson quote when people talk about a revolution and are only willing to sit on the sidelines.
Yep, freedom, individual liberty... now that is something I will die for, something I will kill to protect.

Are they willing to do the same to impose infringements on others? Are they willing to die for their belief that others should be contained, normalized, and dictated to in order to espouse collectivist ideal? Are they willing to kill another to enforce such an ideal? When the battle is heated, when they are surrounded by the dead and half dying of their fellow idealist, will their conviction to see through such an offense to another steady them, give them strength and drive them to press on?

Only the fight for freedom, liberty, and justice according to those principals does such courage and conviction spring. Those who thirst for oppression quickly lose their will when they are faced with such dwindling circumstances.

Are these people truly ready for a fight to oppress liberty? I think not.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:43 AM
 
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Sunday night, our permit expired for occupying Freedom Plaza in Washington, D.C. So, we threw a dance party, and when we could dance no more, we went to sleep in Freedom Plaza.

We have until 2 p.m. today to remove our possessions. We do not intend to do so. We suspect that if the police want to remove us by force they will wait until evening. So we're throwing a dinner party, and 99% of the country is invited.

Our permit is now the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
Back in the day there was a march on Washington by the WWI vets that had been promised a check one day for their part in WWI. Funny thing is if they had gotten the check early it would have helped the economy out. Start a new political party. Fund it with $10 from everyone each year. You get what you pay for not what you vote for. “They” buy the positions that “we” vote for. “We” need to start buying our own politicians. Everyone talks about campaign reform don't talk about it just do it. Don't worry about them worry about you and look at what you can do.


If you want the economy to grow and to have full employment quickly then here is four things to do.


Print a bunch of money and give it to everyone. $3k per person should do it and if it doesn't then try another $3K.


Up the minimum wage to $30hr.


Tax the principle on debt.


Start a national savings plan.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:46 AM
 
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Back in the day there was a march on Washington by the WWI vets that had been promised a check one day for their part in WWI. Funny thing is if they had gotten the check early it would have helped the economy out. Start a new political party. Fund it with $10 from everyone each year. You get what you pay for not what you vote for. “They” buy the positions that “we” vote for. “We” need to start buying our own politicians. Everyone talks about campaign reform don't talk about it just do it. Don't worry about them worry about you and look at what you can do.


If you want the economy to grow and to have full employment quickly then here is four things to do.


Print a bunch of money and give it to everyone. $3k per person should do it and if it doesn't then try another $3K.


Up the minimum wage to $30hr.


Tax the principle on debt.


Start a national savings plan.
Save what?

You can't save what doesn't exist.

Made of nothing, is nothing, or will shortly be nothing.

Best to spend it before it disappears.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:50 AM
 
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Save what?

You can't save what doesn't exist.

Made of nothing, is nothing, or will shortly be nothing.

Best to spend it before it disappears.
Yes we do have structural problems with the economy. Fix them and money will be worth something. Don't and it will be hyperinflation. My plan should fix the structural problems or come a lot closer to it.
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