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Old 10-16-2011, 08:05 AM
 
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I'm a capitalist (a business owner) and I support what OWS is doing. You have this so messed up in so many ways. Making money is a good thing. Business is a good thing. It only becomes a big problem when that money is used to pay off politicians and buy elections so the policies in this country help the tiny few at the very top and hurt the rest of us. It has nothing to do with socialism or communism. I pay taxes out the nose in this country and I actually create jobs HERE--why shouldn't I have a voice too?
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Old 10-16-2011, 08:07 AM
 
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So expecting the banking industry to be held accountable = Communism.

Communism = hating the products produced by the working class.

Wow, you learn something new on cd.
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Old 10-16-2011, 08:22 AM
 
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Socialism has never been against the labor produced the the working class. Anyone who studied political science beyond 10th grade would know that.
Socialism has always been for the very average. So, yes, they're for the average "worker" but to get there they had to kill anyone that wasn't in the median or at least get rid of them. They couldn't have anyone questioning their power. Why do you think gulags were created? The same goes with the concentration camps from the Nazis since they were socialist too.
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Old 10-16-2011, 08:27 AM
 
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I'm a capitalist (a business owner) and I support what OWS is doing. You have this so messed up in so many ways. Making money is a good thing. Business is a good thing. It only becomes a big problem when that money is used to pay off politicians and buy elections so the policies in this country help the tiny few at the very top and hurt the rest of us. It has nothing to do with socialism or communism. I pay taxes out the nose in this country and I actually create jobs HERE--why shouldn't I have a voice too?
You should have a voice. You have to remember these folks ask for this when they use generalization like evil corporations (or millionaire and billionaire corporate jet owners, etc -- See Obama). They don't seem to quite understand that if there were no corporations they wouldn't have 99% (snicker) of the things they do now.

Same goes for banks.

If they want to end the Fed they first need to do an experiment where they lock ten people in a room with $1,000 a a few belongings each and see what happens. With a very short period of time 1 person will have 90%+ of the money and the rest will be starving because no more money can be introduce and the amount that originally was brought in is static, not dynamic.
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Old 10-16-2011, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Europe
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A highly profitable company is not "liberal" but capitalistic.

Capitalism is what has advanced the world more than any other economic system.

There is nothing "liberal" about that.
Why not? A successful company can be profitable and care about its workers.
And what makes you think the protesters want communism? This is what you stated in the OP.
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Old 10-16-2011, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Thumb of Michigan
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If you truly believe in communism and socialism then why would you use laptops and cellphones?

I see so many of these violent anarchists use the products of capitalism that it is hard to take them seriously.

You'd might as well start a thread titled " Are Tea Partiers Who Use Communist/Socialist Services Like Highways and Fire Departments Hypocrites?"

I suppose, with your litmus test on being a hypocrite, those at the protest should be wearing sun-dial wristwatches?!
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Old 10-16-2011, 08:52 AM
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to use your adversary's assets against him is actually quite smart. Almost like the banking industry used our own greed to destroy us.
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Old 10-16-2011, 08:53 AM
 
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If you truly believe in communism and socialism then why would you use laptops and cellphones?

I see so many of these violent anarchists use the products of capitalism that it is hard to take them seriously.
Yes I think they are.
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Old 10-16-2011, 08:59 AM
 
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I'm a capitalist (a business owner) and I support what OWS is doing. You have this so messed up in so many ways. Making money is a good thing. Business is a good thing. It only becomes a big problem when that money is used to pay off politicians and buy elections so the policies in this country help the tiny few at the very top and hurt the rest of us. It has nothing to do with socialism or communism. I pay taxes out the nose in this country and I actually create jobs HERE--why shouldn't I have a voice too?
Then these guys would be protesting Obama.

Look at the campaign funds the candidates have at their disposal, the big money that is buying them in other words.

Romney and Perry: $30 million combined
Paul: $8 million
Bachman: $4 million

Obama: an incredible over $70 million dollars

Cain: $2.2 million

Anyone who is against the buying of politicians would be protesting the current occupant of the White House who is most definitely has been bought. Big money seems to be behind Obama.
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Old 10-16-2011, 09:09 AM
 
Location: North America
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You'd might as well start a thread titled " Are Tea Partiers Who Use Communist/Socialist Services Like Highways and Fire Departments Hypocrites?"

I suppose, with your litmus test on being a hypocrite, those at the protest should be wearing sun-dial wristwatches?!

Tea Party people aren't against highways and fire departments because THEY PAY FOR THEM.

Occupy movement communists are against capitalism because THEY WANT EVERYTHING FOR FREE.
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