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Old 10-16-2011, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The Republicans also have great faith in the gullibility of the average American. I give you anybody who fell for Sarah Palin's money-grabbing scam the last 6 months with her Will-she? or Won't-she? possible run for President.

I also give you Herman Cain, the Koch bought-and-paid-for candidate. Who knew??

All it takes are the words Less Government! More Freedom! More Personal Responsibility! and you have their candidates. No explanations needed on how to actually achieve those goals in a world-wide recession, with global political instability.
And who is funding Obama ? Who owns the money behind him ?

If you are going to open everyone's closet then make sure it's EVERYONE including your own guy. To ignore that is being hypocritical.
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Old 10-16-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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The Republicans also have great faith in the gullibility of the average American. I give you anybody who fell for Sarah Palin's money-grabbing scam the last 6 months with her Will-she? or Won't-she? possible run for President.

I also give you Herman Cain, the Koch bought-and-paid-for candidate. Who knew??

All it takes are the words Less Government! More Freedom! More Personal Responsibility! and you have their candidates. No explanations needed on how to actually achieve those goals in a world-wide recession, with global political instability.
Lets see your supporting information that says Cain is bought by the Koch brothers? We know Obama is bought by Soros.

The progressive liberals (communist) are creating the global instability as part of their effort for global control.

Take about gullible do you even realize what life would be like in America if the progressive liberals achieve the "American Spring" and crush capitalism? You will be living in country that resembles a third world country.
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Old 10-16-2011, 11:34 AM
 
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Oh, I agree. That's why we need a Labor Party.
Not sure I agree about a Labor Party but we certainly need parties that represent the interests and wishes of their constituents and the nation as a whole rather than furthering the agendas of government and those that have bought and paid for it.
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Old 10-16-2011, 11:34 AM
 
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Lets see your supporting information that says Cain is bought by the Koch brothers?

The progressive liberals (communist) are creating the global instability as part of their effort for global control.

Take about gullible do you even realize what life would be like in America if the progressive liberals achieve the "American Spring" and crush capitalism? You will be living in country that resembles a third world country.
Long ties to Koch brothers key to Cain’s campaign - The Washington Post
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Old 10-16-2011, 11:35 AM
 
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Lets see your supporting information that says Cain is bought by the Koch brothers?

The progressive liberals (communist) are creating the global instability as part of their effort for global control.

Take about gullible do you even realize what life would be like in America if the progressive liberals achieve the "American Spring" and crush capitalism? You will be living in country that resembles a third world country.
Ah, but they are being told it will be utopia instead. Everyone has a job with a "livable wage". No big banks or corporations taking all their money anymore. I dunno, maybe they'll just give away all their stuff for free to everyone.

Only a fool who has not read his history book would believe that.
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Old 10-16-2011, 11:48 AM
 
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Well ... you did supply the link

I would not vote for Cain for other reasons ... mainly because he ran the federal reserve in Kansas City.
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Old 10-16-2011, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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You should have just stopped right there.

Somebody has to be the adult, tighten the pursestrings, and clean up the mess Obama is making. It's obvious that the democratic party is too stupid to NOT blindly follow their messiah, so the republicans will have to get the job done.
I really used to despise Paul Ryan and his "Path to Prosperity." I just thought it was ridiculous to fundamentally change Medicare/Medicaid/Social Security, I thought he was just another screw the poor and lower classes kind of person. I never really bothered to read the plan because I assumed it was just garbage.

But then something changed my mind, that something is mathematics. If you look at the math, we are currently on an unsustainable path. I think the Big 3 Entitlements are good programs that benefit millions of people, and I didn't want to change them. But I was mugged by math. It doesn't matter how noble the aims of these programs are, the fact is they are simply unsustainable. Good intentions aren't going to pay the bills. In reality Paul Ryan is not just trying to change our Entitlements, he's trying to save them. The people are who are truly anti-poor are those who want to do nothing and just pretend as if we can stay on this path.

Reading Ryan's plan has actually made me a fan of his. I believe the balance of my views place me slightly left of center, but the fact is we have to reign in spending and tackle our debt. Our debt is going to crush us if we don't address it. Unfortunately President Obama, along with many of our "leaders" in Washington aren't serious about deficit and debt reduction, they pay lip service to it and then propose another half trillion dollar stimulus or another war.


The Path to Prosperity (Episode 1): America's two futures, visualized - YouTube


The Path to Prosperity (Episode 2): Saving Medicare, Visualized - YouTube

These short videos do a good job putting visual aids with my point.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:14 PM
 
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There is way too much to list in a single post but here are a few highlights ...

Obamacare will impose significant financial burdens on small and large business. Many small business owners said they will go out of business if they have to conform to Obamacare rules/laws. Obamacare is a time bomb that will cost the tax payer more and more each year and provide less and less healthcare.

There are opt out provisions and many companies have chosen to do so, so that is a fail.

How about all the anti-business regulations that have been enacted under Obama.

Which regulations are you speaking to and how have they hurt growth?

How about actions like preventing Boeing from opening a new manufacturing plant in South Carolina???

You mean moving its plant from one state to the next, and that was the nlrb and not obama

How about shutting down off shore drilling in the gulf and putting thousands of people out of work.You mean after a major oil spill, and it was off shore. how many of those are american workers?

How about the failed stimulus that put this country in deep debt and produced nothing but a culture of corruption with money being doled out to Obama cronies like unions, big campaign donors, and progressive liberal agenda (socialist) programs. The new Jobs bill is nothing but more money for the same purpose.

How did the stimulus slow growth and that was a carryover from Bush.


Obama’s Job-Killing Policies: A Picture Says a Thousand Words


So you still have nothing. Keep trying.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:40 PM
 
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The smarter conservative groups and financial bundlers have already shifted focus toward keeping the house and gaining back the senate in 2012.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:51 PM
 
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People are forgetting about the debt. There is personal debt, corporate debt and sovereign debt as well as local government debt.

We are wallowing in DEBT and cannot pay it off. We cannot move forward until this is dealt with.
Just tell em we won't pay. Did it in 1971 when France demanded our debt be paid back in gold and we said na we'll just go off the gold standard and peg the dollar to oil. What are they gonna do nuke us?

A lot of countries holding piles of our debt just happen to be protected by our military too. Other than China they are basically paying us protection money by bying up the debt. They wanna call it in we'll just leave and let em fend for themselves.

IMF has been trying to maneuver into using SDR's as a world currency type to purchase commodidties and the like. Funny how one of their big guns who was a big fan of this happened to be set up by a hooker in NY here a few months back.
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