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You might be convinced that you can measure global temperature from data taken from one island, but most people wouldn't be able to make that leap of faith.
Now how much are you prepared to pay for the Eiffel tower? I can get you a good deal.
I don't know what this business of "one Island" means ... the decline in global temperature from the latter part of the 1990's to 2010 has been measured by Satellite imaging, rather than earth based measuring stations.
Furthermore, there are nuances in the English language and in critical analysis that seem to be escaping your notice. You really can have a net temperature increase of .5 during the course of the 20th century as measured against some other point in time such as the 18th and 19th century, while ALSO experiencing a decline in temperature between 1998-2010. These are not contradictory facts.
The point here is WHERE do you start the point of comparison to show an "unprecedented" global warming-climate change event occurring, and how your choice of where to start that measurement might alter the conclusion.
After the Medieval Warm Period which occurred roughly between 800-1200, the period between 1300-1800 marked the period known as the "Little Ice Age" when temperatures dropped dramatically. The lowest points being between 1600-1800. Since that time, temperatures have been rising, with slight fluctuations up and down if you analyze them decade to decade. So if you chart the temperature record starting at the peak of the Warm period, say 1150 and end at 2010, the chart will show NOTHING unusual about the 20th century temperatures, since current temperatures show no anomaly when compared to the Peak Warm period, which was slightly warmer than it is today.
BUT ... if you want to be DECEPTIVE and convince people there is a Global Warming Disaster occurring, you can leave out the Medieval Warm Period, and start your comparison chart at the 1700 (peak cold of the little ice age) time line moving forward, which will show a net increase in temperatures in each subsequent century. But even doing this doesn't negate the fact that warming occurred in the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries, which were Pre-Industrial Revolution times ... and therefore, this warming was OBVIOUSLY not due to man made CO2.
So, no matter how you slice it, dice it, spin it ..... the only leap of faith required here is to believe that the earth's climate system changed how it had always functioned for thousands of years, starting around the 1940's.
The notion is preposterous, and the logic necessary to understand this is very basic level intelligence.
Do you understand the planet has possibly warmed a 1/2 degree over the last 150 years (out of 6 billion) and has been flat over the last decade, at least?
No where in the BEST report does it say the miniscule warming that has occurred is man made.
I wonder if you know Co2 is the life blood of the planet.
You actually believe that a 1/2 degree over 150 years (the amount of time HUMANS have been measuring the temperature - and not very well at that) is abnormal, unnatural, unprecedented?
Uh, that is 1.4 degrees in the last 100 years....No need to lie about it.
We don’t have to accept the authority of the NAS. Just look at the latest evidence, which has been making headlines in the popular media over the past months. Not only is the land surface of the earth getting warmer, the seas are getting warmer especially at the poles, which is why the polar ice caps are melting rapidly.
Scientists from the British Antarctic Survey (BAS) report that over the past 50 years more than 13 000 sq km of sea ice in the Antarctic Peninsula has been lost. Melting in the Antarctic Peninsula removes sea ice that held back the movement of glaciers. As a result, glaciers flow into the ocean up to 6 times faster than before. West Antarctica is also affected where the warmer seawater appears to be eroding the ice from below. Global Warming Is Happening
The notion is preposterous, and the logic necessary to understand this is very basic level intelligence.
Now who is a fella ta believe, a scientist funded by two ultra rich billionaires dedicated to debunking human caused global warming who changes his mind or an anonymous climate change denier on an internet forum.
Uh, that is 1.4 degrees in the last 100 years....No need to lie about it.
Yeah, maybe when you add the "padding" the "scientists" inject because they are missing data. 1/2 degree over 150 years.
We don’t have to accept the authority of the NAS. Just look at the latest evidence, which has been making headlines in the popular media over the past months. Not only is the land surface of the earth getting warmer, the seas are getting warmer especially at the poles, which is why the polar ice caps are melting rapidly.
Ah gawds!! At the very least, TRY to get the basic facts right. Where is the missing heat?
The buoys can dive 3,000 feet down and measure ocean temperature. Since the system was fully deployed in 2003, it has recorded no warming of the global oceans.
According to the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre in Colorado, Arctic summer sea ice has increased by 409,000 square miles, or 26 per cent, since 2007 – and even the most committed global warming activists do not dispute this.
I think your problem is you haven't CHECKED to see if the predictions of the AGWarmists came true or not. For your information, they didn't.
You know, I put up a thread that shows the arctic virtually ice free...back in the 20,30,40,50. I don't suppose you took note of that?
I imagine this scared the believers half to death;
2008 article. Was supposed to disappear that year. In case you missed it, that didn't happen, hasn't happened....recently.
However, I'm SURE some time in this planet's distant past, it happened...over and over again.
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