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Old 10-31-2011, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Was watching one of the news shows (can't remember which or who was doing the talking - could have been on the business news channels) and the guest (I believe it was some expert, not a politician) said that the largest piece of land for solar power would power 45,000 homes. Thinking that was a measley number for so much valuable land, today I tried to find that factoid:

"Construction is underway for a 75 megawatt photovoltaic power plant in Cle Elum, located 90 miles east of Seattle. This project will eventually have 400,000 PV panels installed across 900 acres of public land, surrounded by pine trees. When completed, the solar power station, will power 45,000 homes. Touted as the largest project of its type in the Pacific Northwest, developers expect the Teanaway Solar Reserve to start generating power in early 2012."

Energy Solar Panels in Puget Sound | eHow.com

Solar salvation? - High Country News

Isn't land a very valuable item to give up for so little in return (900 acres/45,000 homes)?

Now both articles say it's the largest amount of land for the effort in the Pacific Northwest not in the US but it got me to thinking -

How much land has to be given up for a solar power farm? 900 acres for only 45,000 homes? How does that compare with how much land for coal mining is needed to power X number of homes, oil land is needed, wind farm land is needed, other?

Please, stick to "the land" angle for this thread rather than "the green" angle. I want to know if you think that much land is worth giving up for solar panels compared to the amount of land needed for other types of domestically produced energy.

Do politicians talk about this "land needed" aspect of solar energy?

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Old 10-31-2011, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Land doesn't seem to have ANY value when it comes to drilling for oil and natural gas. But somehow, solar power is a terrible idea?
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Old 10-31-2011, 10:01 AM
 
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Isn't 90 miles east of Seattle is a Mountain? How many people want to live in a mountain?

If they can actually build there, that would be great. Of course, EPA will tell you there are some species no know even know or care live there, and you can't build because of reason.
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Old 10-31-2011, 10:01 AM
 
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Land doesn't seem to have ANY value when it comes to drilling for oil and natural gas. But somehow, solar power is a terrible idea?
Just look at it. 900 acres of land going to waste to power just 45,000 homes? This goes to show how unreliable "green" energy is. They really need to increase the efficiency of solar panels. If you can only power 45k homes on 1.4 square miles of land, then you have serious efficiency problems.
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Old 10-31-2011, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Austin
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I wonder if the same people crying about 900 acres to power tens of thousands of homes would be up in arms about that same land becoming a ski resort or a billionaire's mountain retreat.
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Old 10-31-2011, 10:11 AM
 
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I wonder if the same people crying about 900 acres to power tens of thousands of homes would be up in arms about that same land becoming a ski resort or a billionaire's mountain retreat.
Please let the adults do the talking now
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Old 10-31-2011, 10:13 AM
 
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Land doesn't seem to have ANY value when it comes to drilling for oil and natural gas. But somehow, solar power is a terrible idea?

well lets see. you can drill on 10 acres and get enough energy to power many times that many homes....


so yea bad idea. it aint effecient.
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Old 10-31-2011, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Sale Creek, TN
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Isn't it cloudy and misty in Seattle, for the most part?
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Old 10-31-2011, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Please let the adults do the talking now
I'll go by your example

Mature.
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Old 10-31-2011, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Land doesn't seem to have ANY value when it comes to drilling for oil and natural gas. But somehow, solar power is a terrible idea?
Yes, it does. I think land is the most valuable thing we have. That's why I want to know comparatively speaking, how much land is needed for other forms of domestic energy compared to solar. You know, compare the bang for the buck. If I thought we could turn Venus into a solar farm, I'd be all for it.
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