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Old 11-05-2011, 02:39 PM
 
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Is cursing really the only way in which you are able to express yourself?

What is Constitutional Conservatism? The words speak for themselves.

Read and learn:
Constitutional Conservatism | Hoover Institution

Now perhaps you would like to address the video and thread topic?
In other words, it's something that's completely invented and fabricated by a think tank and has no association whatsoever to our founding fathers?

Thanks for making my point for me.
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Old 11-05-2011, 02:40 PM
 
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Yet the finale tally for applications completed was only two. Curiosity about what a booth is does not equate interest in employment. Life isn't fair and sometimes we have to work our way to the quality of job and wage/salary we want.

Unfortunately there seems to be an amazing lack of character and lack of personal pride where people would rather take money in the form of "entitlements" from taxpayers who do work than accept a job and pay they think is beneath them.

This is what decades of Socialist policies has brought this nation.

If I PM you a link to a job application at McDonalds. Are you telling me that you will gladly apply and if accepted work there full time?

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Old 11-05-2011, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Actually, if any of you had watched the video, the booth generated a lot of interest. Many people stopped by to check it out, first and foremost is obviously, "What kind of jobs?"

Unfortunately, the "Jobs" being offered are by and large fast food/retail minimum wage jobs. Subway, Wal-Mart, McDonalds, Popeyes, etc, etc. The kind of jobs that usually employ high school kids. There's even a job application for Solyndra, who cannot possibly had hired those head hunters because they went bankrupt. So my guess is that those guys are not really "head hunters" but some random people who downloaded a bunch of applications online, they have no connection to the employers.

The woman actually asked a good question, "These jobs don't pay much. How do you survive on that kind of salary?" You see, our problems is not a lack of minimum wage jobs; it's a lack of solid middle-class jobs. Jobs that can pay rent and expenses, jobs that can stimulate the economy. Jobs that can actually let people consume rather than survive. This is what the Teabaggers don't get. They see a guy pumping gas and a CEO running the investment fund to the ground but collects ten millions in bonus and they draw an equal sign.

And to add insult, the video shows a couple of protestors who already have jobs who turned down the minimum wage jobs. Oh how dare employed people turn down low-paying jobs!!! Lazy!!! Yeah right, crazy right-wingers.

But even with those minimum wage jobs, more than a few people filled out the applications. One guy said he just want to work full time and doesn't care if it's selling burgers.

Anyone who's even a tiny bit objective can see that these people WANT to work, in fact DESPERATE for work. I'd like to see real jobs being offered and the reaction. Bring out job applications to Apple, Facebook, Google, etc, etc and see a swarm of people fighting out the applications. Remember, the protest isn't about minimum wage, it's about a system that robs them of many of the middle class jobs that have disappeared due to several decades of extreme right-wing policy.
You seem to have done a good job of watching the video without using left leaning talking points to think with. However, people who qualify for those jobs you talk about from leading corporations must not be among those at the OccupyDC people. There are probably a few people in those groups who would work just to live but too many of them are willing to take part as useful idiots of the left. Those in that group will howl their heads off when union thugs take over as they did in the west coast movements using violence to try to get what they want. It will come to every one of those groups by late spring since that is what was planned.

Do you think that these movements weren't planned down to a tee by groups who haven't taken part yet? If so, I hope you are right, but I sure don't think you are.
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Old 11-05-2011, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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If I had a choice between taking part in changing the course of my country or flipping burgers or sitting in a cubicle, I'd go with option #1 as long as I am able. I'd consider it important and meaningful. I'd call it patriotic, too.

You are misguided to suggest that these people are complaining solely about a lack of jobs or that they are a bunch of losers. The oft-compared Tea Party participants are protesting for themselves, not their country. It's all about them and having the country conform to their rigid exclusionary standards at the expense of any alternate view. I don't sense any sense of elitism or exclusion with the OWS. They don't say they KNOW better (like the TP does with every breath), they simply WANT better.
Have you not noticed that over 70% of those polled too many times have talked about this country going the wrong direction? If you have seen that you have to know that you are standing up for the direction Obama was talking about when he talked about heading a different direction. You want to go the direction he says and the rest of us think that is the wrong one. Since you don't want to work to support yourself but want us going the direction of socialist Europe I have to think you are wrong.
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Old 11-05-2011, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Complete waste of time explaining OWS to roysoldboy or lifelongMOgal and several other people in this forum. They don't want to know the truth, they are just so brainwashed by the MSM that they can't think for themselves. Sad way to live.
Nice try but you can't find many polls that show the people polled agree with you and other distribute the wealth people. Around 70% think as we do and that puts you and Obama in a minority.

Please keep trying to explain those OWS movements to me. So far I haven't seen much of anything but feeling sorry for those useful idiots among the groups. Hell, even in Seattle and Oakland where the union thugs got ahead of time too many of the useful idiots are trying to convince us that they didn't believe force would ever happen. How else do they get us to the place where our Glorious Leader has to declare martial law to control them.
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Old 11-05-2011, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Is cursing really the only way in which you are able to express yourself?

What is Constitutional Conservatism? The words speak for themselves.

Read and learn:
Constitutional Conservatism | Hoover Institution

Now perhaps you would like to address the video and thread topic?
THEY just can't hold to the topic since all they have to use is the left leaning talking points to defend themselves. Many of them have never seen that video because talking points work among them.
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Old 11-05-2011, 03:07 PM
 
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If I PM you a link to a job application at McDonalds. Are you telling me that you will gladly apply and if accepted work there full time?

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If I had no means to provide for myself other than living off the public dole I would. However, I am self employed and take no "entitlements" from any taxpayer. Rather, I am a taxpayer and part of the 53%.

Last edited by lifelongMOgal; 11-05-2011 at 03:34 PM.. Reason: typo
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Old 11-05-2011, 03:29 PM
 
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Hah! You really don't know know what the whole thing is about.
Tell us in nauseating detail...
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Old 11-05-2011, 03:31 PM
 
Location: The Internet
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twist, turn and run because they don't really want jobs. Here is a beautiful example of how hard they work to keep from having to work. I guess all they want is to protest and make noise.

How Did Occupy D.C. Protesters Respond to a Table Full of Job Applications? | CowboyByte (http://cowboybyte.com/1668/how-did-occupy-d-c-protesters-respond-to-a-table-full-of-job-applications/ - broken link)
All this shows is people know what they are worth and what a living wage is. Working at Subway for $8/hour won't pay the bills. Especially in the DC area.
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Old 11-05-2011, 03:37 PM
 
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All this shows is people know what they are worth and what a living wage is. Working at Subway for $8/hour won't pay the bills. Especially in the DC area.
People can vote with their feet and leave when a city or state makes the cost of living too expensive. Frankly, they should do whatever it takes to earn a living support themselves (legally).
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