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Why aren't the positions filled if they're so desirable? I would think the reason is that not everyone works for money. There are many other intangibles like housing (not much out there), weather (please, western North Dakota?!), and the fact that the work is very dirty, dangerous, and primarily outside. How much environmental damage is being done would be a question I would ask. And does one's refusal of such work mean that a person is a loser if they choose to protest instead? I think not. I'm unemployed but there's no way I'd accept the job you describe. This reminds me of Las Vegas (and Phoenix to a far lesser degree) where every desperate person in the country in the 1990s moved to to find work, turning them both into 'paradises' of despair.
I certainly don't think a person unwilling to do oilfield work is a loser, but I'm just giving an example to all of you "protesters" that high paying work is still easy to find in the USA. If you'd rather protest instead of putting money in your pocket, fine; but don't hold your hand out and ask for any of my hard-earned money. It's not my responsibility to provide you and your ilk with free housing, free food, free transportation, free college, or free medicine simply because you want to "steal" it from the hard working taxpayers of this country. Do yourself a favor...Get a job.
70K/yr, no experience necessary? `10,000 of them available? Even if that were true we need millions of those puppies to turn things around in this country. But go ahead, wail on those conservative talking points. The big three just got through bushwhacking the UAW and going forward new hires will get the princely sum of $14/hr to work in the newly reorganized and profitable again American Auto Industry. New hires on the NYPD get 25K/yr to work in some of the most dangerous precincts in the country. Little by little equilibrium is being reached and finally, wages for those American jobs that cannot be outsourced are being forced down to a level that is acceptable to those paying them. I've got no problem with this. What I have a problem with is when those people start moaning about there being no money for anything. Where do they expect money to come from when the middle class (former middle class) is being held to subsistence wages? It is apparently not obvious to some that a large portion of OWS supporters are not indigent. I am not. The status quo is not sustainable. I don't doubt that the 1% would like to keep the gravy train rolling on for as long as they can. Leave them to it. They don't need blue collar mouthpieces on C-D to plead their case. By the time some of you realize that we were right and the 1% did not have your best interests at heart it will be way too late.
70K/yr, no experience necessary? `10,000 of them available? Even if that were true we need millions of those puppies to turn things around in this country. But go ahead, wail on those conservative talking points. The big three just got through bushwhacking the UAW and going forward new hires will get the princely sum of $14/hr to work in the newly reorganized and profitable again American Auto Industry. New hires on the NYPD get 25K/yr to work in some of the most dangerous precincts in the country. Little by little equilibrium is being reached and finally, wages for those American jobs that cannot be outsourced are being forced down to a level that is acceptable to those paying them. I've got no problem with this. What I have a problem with is when those people start moaning about there being no money for anything. Where do they expect money to come from when the middle class (former middle class) is being held to subsistence wages? It is apparently not obvious to some that a large portion of OWS supporters are not indigent. I am not. The status quo is not sustainable. I don't doubt that the 1% would like to keep the gravy train rolling on for as long as they can. Leave them to it. They don't need blue collar mouthpieces on C-D to plead their case. By the time some of you realize that we were right and the 1% did not have your best interests at heart it will be way too late.
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Yes, my above statement IS true. As for what you've just posted, the destruction of unions such as the UAW (which destroyed the big 3 nearly and made the American auto industry globaly non-competative) has helped to keep jobs in the USA. If poeple weren't willing to take that $14 an hour, then the industry would have to increase wages. That's how the free market works. Besides, my socialist loving friend, where will you get the money needed to "make things equal?" Oh yeah, that's right...You'll take it from working people like me! Keep protesting. Keep b****ing. Keep dreaming. Those of us that work have a far greater chance of achieving our goals in life over those of us that complain about how "unfair" things are while doing nothing.
There have been entirely too many threads this week inviting unemployed Americans to move to states where the employment situation is (marginally) better or, better yet, moving abroad where opportunities just abound for American refugee's of the recession. Each instance of such is an occasion of extreme ignorance and depraved indifference. I know first hand of the ravages to family and marital bonds that economic migration entails. The world is not ready for the advent of an American economic landscape that requires even as few as 10 percent to leave. To assume that there would not be a quick backlash against Americans seeking work abroad in larger numbers than at present is foolish or disingenuous. The only way forward is to confront the systemic inequality and to fix it. Or not and collapse in civil unrest. But the 1% are on notice. That's a good thing.
There have been entirely too many threads this week inviting unemployed Americans to move to states where the employment situation is (marginally) better or, better yet, moving abroad where opportunities just abound for American refugee's of the recession. Each instance of such is an occasion of extreme ignorance and depraved indifference. I know first hand of the ravages to family and marital bonds that economic migration entails. The world is not ready for the advent of an American economic landscape that requires even as few as 10 percent to leave. To assume that there would not be a quick backlash against Americans seeking work abroad in larger numbers than at present is foolish or disingenuous. The only way forward is to confront the systemic inequality and to fix it. Or not and collapse in civil unrest. But the 1% are on notice. That's a good thing.
H
You mean you want a job and you want it in the city and state you dictate, instead of where the work is?
Sounds just like an OWS protester doesn't it? Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!
During the Hoover/FDR Depression and during the Dust Bowel men traveled to find work wherever possible to support their families. No entitlements back then and no available work was beneath anyone. It wasn't pretty but people survived and this country thrived.
This next time 'round it will be much uglier. People feel entitled,many are lacking both work ethic and skills, the manufacturing base is miniscule comparatively, and our fiat currency isn't backed by anything but IOUs. A significant portion of the urban population doesn't even know how to grow food in a garden.
Yes, my above statement IS true. As for what you've just posted, the destruction of unions such as the UAW (which destroyed the big 3 nearly and made the American auto industry globaly non-competative) has helped to keep jobs in the USA. If poeple weren't willing to take that $14 an hour, then the industry would have to increase wages. That's how the free market works. Besides, my socialist loving friend, where will you get the money needed to "make things equal?" Oh yeah, that's right...You'll take it from working people like me! Keep protesting. Keep b****ing. Keep dreaming. Those of us that work have a far greater chance of achieving our goals in life over those of us that complain about how "unfair" things are while doing nothing.
Take it from working people like you??? You identify with the 1%??!! Just because you have some kind of "job" to get up and go to you are getting all superior?? Please stop and take a breath. The Big 3 were uncompetitive because wages were 52% of revenue. Do you really imagine the bulk of that was the ~$30/hr paid to line workers or was it the $40M/yr (plus!!) paid to the CEO and the proportionate salaries paid to the rest of the Executive Branch? And, no, people won't be "willing" to take $14/hr for work that until very recently paid twice that. But they will and that does not at all mean that that is a fair wage. Henry Ford housed his workers and fed them too! Does Ford II house and feed his worker? Given the realities of inflation and the triplicate and quintuplicate mulitplication of the cost of most of Americans basic expenses should wages be moving downward in America???? Even in China wages move upward! They move upward in every single besotted piece of the world called a country except the United States (and the United Kingdom). You've got no empathy for UAW members because you obviously don't work in auto manufacture or have loved ones that do (neither do I btw which might be instructive but probably won't be) but you should. Things got to this sorry state because Americans only watch their own backs.
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